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xXDelta33Xx

2.7k points

6 days ago

xXDelta33Xx

2.7k points

6 days ago

one actually made it through?

Feukorv

1.5k points

6 days ago

Feukorv

1.5k points

6 days ago

At least one. In the reports there were 3 drones. Ruski only showed 1 being destroyed.

Fresh-Dingo522

980 points

6 days ago*

Typical half ass propaganda. Perfect for Russian nationalist, American far right wingers, and irrational far left commies.

trikora

322 points

6 days ago

trikora

322 points

6 days ago

i'm not american so i kinda confused, aren't american right wingers supposed to be against russia? since us vs russia rivalry?

Elbynerual

127 points

6 days ago

Elbynerual

127 points

6 days ago

Originally, yes. But lately the position of right wingers is "the opposite of whatever the left thinks". So when the Ukraine war broke out they tried to find reasons why Russia is not so bad. You won't hear much about it from the older ones who grew up knowing that Russia was a huge rival and possible enemy. But the younger dipshits are almost Russia fanboys because the left is anti Russia

BringBackAoE

521 points

6 days ago

Republicans are very split on Ukraine.

Mainstream Republicans are Team Ukraine. “Putin wing of the party” (as a GOP leader called them) actively support Trump and are Team Putin.

ilubdakittiez

71 points

6 days ago

Ahh so typically conservative Republicans used to be foreign policy hawks who were generally for millitary interventions in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, syria, but recently there has been a bit of an "America first" moddo with Trump supporters that think we are spending too much money in Ukraine and want a spending cap, they are also angry at democrats for spending and are using brinkmanship to get concessions by threatening to not move up the debt ceiling making America default on its loans and seriously hurting the economy, personally I hate any one who doesn't support Ukraine also Taiwan and I can't stand any one who doesn't understand how much we are getting back through our millitary support for Ukraine

Toasty_Bread_1

43 points

6 days ago

Yeah, america first kinda like pre WWII where many Americans wanted to only focus on America and not support Britain. Not realizing that the welfare of other countries actually has an affect on our economy.

EasyasACAB

14 points

6 days ago

Also a lot of Americans outright supported the Nazis and wanted us on their side.

fusionliberty796

57 points

6 days ago

RU money/influence/shilling,/bot farms/western media brain worms/trump etc

TobysGrundlee

57 points

6 days ago*

They were until Trump took office. He's all buddy buddy with Putin and his supporters blindly go along with whatever he says or does though so now a lot of those on the Right are stumbling over themselves trying to justify ways to not counter what Dear Leader says.

ObjectAggravating706

91 points

6 days ago*

My friend, Please dont spread media narratives like all right wingers are not wanting to support Ukraine like Trump. You couldn't be more wrong. Im a Republican and sent $600 to Ukraine last year and fully support spending a sliver of our defense budget to support our Ukrainian brothers and sisters. I know many other Republicans that support Ukraine just like myself. Don't believe everything the media tells you. Just bc Trump doesnt want to support Ukraine doesnt mean all Republicans are in favor of that. We are only talking about $14 a month per American citizen in tax dollars to keep current financial support to Ukraine. I dont think thats going to break the bank. We need to keep that going to continue support for Ukraine.

I wont be voting for any Republican candidate that does not support our Ukrainian brothers and sisters. Its a deal breaker for me.

Guys all I'm sayin is dont lump all Republicans into a Trump category bc many of us would much rather pick someone else than Trump again. I'll take my downvotes with tarter sauce please.

EternallyImature

7 points

6 days ago

We'll see in the next general election. If Trump is running, all conservatives will hold their nose and vote for him. There is a genuine threat to this country becuase of the very real conservative habit. You would think that Biden would win by a landslide according to the defenders of good conservatives. There are no good conservatives. This entire issue is due to them voting for the worst people in the US for many years.

Lite_Byte

524 points

6 days ago

Lite_Byte

524 points

6 days ago

We know soon enough if it changed into a sub

einarfridgeirs

145 points

6 days ago*

As of the time stamp of this post, the ship has not been spotted in any of the ports it could have been heading to.

Not in Sevastopol

Not in Berdyansk

Not in Novorossiysk

And it should have arrived somewhere by now.

So where is it? SHOIGU!!! WHERE IS IT?!?!

Lite_Byte

73 points

6 days ago

Lite_Byte

73 points

6 days ago

I think we have to think a bit...deeper (literally) :-)

HGpennypacker

85 points

6 days ago

Russia is now conducting a Special Underwater Operation.

frankoyvind

24 points

6 days ago

Again

Cluubias2

13 points

6 days ago

Cluubias2

13 points

6 days ago

This new Transformers movie is different

Umutuku

5 points

6 days ago

Umutuku

5 points

6 days ago

"Oh, hi Moskva."

Soundwave_13

249 points

6 days ago

RIP Brave Water Drone. You did the lords work even if it’s minor damage it sends a message to the rest of the fleet you are NOT safe

518Peacemaker

86 points

6 days ago

Idk if it was minor. Seeing the one they actually intercepted go up looked like quite a bit of explosive

DaGhostQc

24 points

6 days ago

DaGhostQc

24 points

6 days ago

Anything gets blown up below water and you better hope that all the doors seals very well and that the pumps weren't sold to buy a Lada.

TrickNailer

34 points

6 days ago

Yeah, looks like russia lied. Again.

rockon4life45

6 points

6 days ago

I'm shocked.

Shocked, I tell you.

madery

104 points

6 days ago

madery

104 points

6 days ago

I think the first 5 seconds are from the destroyed drone the rest of the video is a different one

John-AtWork

39 points

6 days ago

I don't know, both clips look to be the same ship and from the same approaching angle.

darkcathedralgaming

5 points

6 days ago

You're right, but multiple drones could have been approaching from the same area.

May or may not be the best course of action as coming from different directions could increase the chances of success right? But still.

TheRealPoruks

7 points

6 days ago

These drones are way larger and less "stealthy" than i thought.

I would think a ship would have no problem shooting something the size of a paddle boat but i guess it's harder in reality.

GI_Bill_Trap_Lord

3.2k points

6 days ago

“Let’s hope the Ukrainians didn’t have any cameras onboard these things and just fucking lie about it”

Fucking hell lmao

BringBackAoE

793 points

6 days ago

Ukraine being Ukraine have a camera on the very front of the drone. Honestly looks like my GoPro. 😂

0xDD

180 points

6 days ago

0xDD

180 points

6 days ago

Honestly looks like my GoPro.

Well, if it's good enough for space, then I guess there is no reason not to use it in maritime environment, huh?

BringBackAoE

83 points

6 days ago

Would also be typical Ukraine to use off-the-shelf components.

The engine on the drone is one of the most popular engines for jet skis.

txzen

13 points

6 days ago

txzen

13 points

6 days ago

Jet Boats are very popular for River Travel/Sport. Can go through shallows and over branches/logs and rocks with less potential damage than outboard props. Good point.

blackholesun37

32 points

6 days ago

I would be willing to bet that it IS a GoPro. They've been re-purposeing all kinds of off the shelf tech to make weapons. Just look at the madlad who was controlling a freaking machinegun turret with a SteamDeck

False-God

35 points

6 days ago

False-God

35 points

6 days ago

I feel it doesn’t get enough attention, but early war, I think around Pisky, there was a remote control BTR turret the Ukrainians built into a bunker that gave the Russians a really hard time trying to attack. Reportedly the Russians would lob grenades in, be confident nobody would be alive inside, then move up and take fire from the “cleared” bunker.

ConfusedOrDazed

4 points

6 days ago

Just look at the madlad who was controlling a freaking machinegun turret with a SteamDeck

I missed that, do you have a link?

blackholesun37

9 points

6 days ago

It's at about 34-40 seconds in, there's been a couple of articles that've come out about it too.

https://youtu.be/ZYE5w3ETtDM

TheBoRiley

87 points

6 days ago

From my experience in racing games: Bumper POV is the best POV, if in cockpit is not an option.

Boesesjoghurt

24 points

6 days ago

Why force yourself behind a small windshield if you could use the bumper-cam instead? Imo other than for immersion bumper is the way to go.

TheBoRiley

16 points

6 days ago*

I go for in-cockpit for the immersion. I like to drift and autocross IRL when I can afford it and my drift car runs, so in cockpit is just more natural feeling to me. Bumper POV does give you unmatched view of the tarmac and apex's of corners and such.

AnonD38

9 points

6 days ago

AnonD38

9 points

6 days ago

How else would they steer them?

GI_Bill_Trap_Lord

6 points

6 days ago

That’s more critical thinking than the Russian MOD did

TXTCLA55

147 points

6 days ago

TXTCLA55

147 points

6 days ago

It's like the drone video over the black sea all over again. Russia said the drone was out of control and they assisted in knocking it out of the sky... And then days later video footage direct from the drone, shows the Russian pilot repeating the same maneuver, dumping fuel, to knock out the drone.

Strontium_frog

31 points

6 days ago

..and damaging his jet in doing so.

BazilBup

72 points

6 days ago

BazilBup

72 points

6 days ago

You forget why Russian Government lie 🤥 they don't lie to cover something up they lie to insult your intellect.

szypty

36 points

6 days ago

szypty

36 points

6 days ago

It's habitually compulsive. "If anything happens, lie about it."

"Hey dude, i like your jacket, is it new?"

"What jacket, i never had any jackets, i don't even know what a jacket is, this jacket isn't mine, it isn't new, I've had it for years!"

Signal_Watercress468

14 points

6 days ago

Dated a Russian woman. Can confirm this is not just a government practice.

killjoy_ua

753 points

6 days ago

killjoy_ua

753 points

6 days ago

The usual plan is as follows:

  1. Assume something
  2. Let the Russians get tangled up in lies
  3. Release a proof

Works every fucking time.

Meidara

162 points

6 days ago

Meidara

162 points

6 days ago

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

oliilo1

18 points

6 days ago

oliilo1

18 points

6 days ago

It's too easy.

not5150

1.5k points

6 days ago

not5150

1.5k points

6 days ago

wow you can see the gunfine hit the water around the drone

Bangeederlander

2.8k points

6 days ago

I wondered why Russia was so keen to release that video of one of them blowing up. Typical Russian play: They knew worse was to come and wanted to try and control the narrative.

laukaus

1.1k points

6 days ago

laukaus

1.1k points

6 days ago

Yeah, it’s so funny that they were in huge hurry to release a clip showing “Russian supremacy “ while the fucking ship has a 500kg warhead coming for it from the other angle either at the same time or just after their clip lol.

nachoolo

423 points

6 days ago

nachoolo

423 points

6 days ago

Even the video they show is of one of this drones being hit dangerously close to the ship.

TobysGrundlee

451 points

6 days ago

Yeah, no way a naval ship in the middle of a war should've ever let anything get that close to it. That was a failure on it's own.

Diablos_lawyer

313 points

6 days ago

"Intelligence Ship"

TobysGrundlee

76 points

6 days ago

Right? Misnomer much?

EuroFoster

16 points

6 days ago

Right? Misnomer much?

Let's put it like this: Russian intelligence ship.

TonyDoorhut

14 points

6 days ago

Oxymoron “Russian Intelligence”

redviper192

49 points

6 days ago

There seems to be a lot of "Never should this have even happened" going on on the Ruski side.

Throwaway2Experiment

13 points

6 days ago

It is actually very hard to detect small ships in these types of conditions shown in the video.

Once you do detect them, it is very difficult to shoot at said objects. Moving firing platform. Moving target. Etc.

Source: Have had to shoot at things from a ship before.

Dividedthought

5 points

6 days ago

It'd be funny to me if Ukraine strapped a bunch of RPG's to these things and used those to make the gunners duck.

HGpennypacker

16 points

6 days ago

Given the explosion in the prior video is it safe to say this this ship is unequivocally fucked?

Dividedthought

12 points

6 days ago

Fucked? Unlikely. Warships are tough.

In desperate need of repair? Definately.

This isn't situation like the Moskva from what I understand. Newer ship and the drone probably hit the area hardened for torpedo strikes.

Danack

63 points

6 days ago

Danack

63 points

6 days ago

has a 500kg warhead

Do you have a source for that?

I took a quick look at https://u24.gov.ua/navaldrones and it says 200kg for what I think is this type of drone. Still a lot, mind.

donksdonks42

79 points

6 days ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_tvZufo4hE

This guy made a 15 min video I just watched (scroll to ~2/3rds in) which shows that it’s a modified jet ski with a 500 kg payload

joesbagofdonuts

65 points

6 days ago

It's hilarious how effective cheap, off the shelf, commercial crafts can be when outfitted with a remote control system and a bunch of explosives. We're talking about a $10k jet ski disabling a $10m+ warship.

the_depressed_boerg

53 points

6 days ago

That is probably more than $100m+ with the equipment, heck a single MBT costs around $10m new (or at least brand new Leo2)

DeCiWolf

9 points

6 days ago

DeCiWolf

9 points

6 days ago

That's H I Sutton, guy is a legendary Navy OSINT guy. Legit source.

TzunSu

176 points

6 days ago

TzunSu

176 points

6 days ago

That's somewhere around twice as much what almost sank the USS Cole, and that was in harbor with very quick access to extensive support. If it's not sunk, they were very, very lucky.

hikariky

175 points

6 days ago*

hikariky

175 points

6 days ago*

Anything smaller than “snapped the ship in half” isn’t going to sink anything unless it crosses two or more ( whatever the Russian navy builds to) water tight compartments. Which means they have to either have a really in-depth knowledge of the ship or they get like 1/5 lucky. The cole is still sailing. And you aren’t breaking a ship in half with an exterior above waterline hit to the ass. Not that it matters because at the very least this ships propulsion is fucked and it’ll be out for a year or more. I’d put money down that the dod instructed them to aim for props and rudders with these things when we first gave them to them.

Edit: it denotes right in the middle of what is either the aft most compartment or, or two really small compartments+ Weather is fine=This ship is getting a tow.

Crumblebeezy

54 points

6 days ago

Those were made in house.

EuroFoster

11 points

6 days ago

Anything smaller than “snapped the ship in half” isn’t going to sink anything unless it crosses two or more ( whatever the Russian navy builds to) water tight compartments.

That wasn't necessary to sink the Moskva. An explosion and a fire can wreak havoc.

TzunSu

72 points

6 days ago*

TzunSu

72 points

6 days ago*

A 500kg charge will absolutely penetrate several compartments. The Cole is still sailing, but it was hit with a much smaller charge, and with very good support very fast, and some of the best trained damage control parties in the world. No one has claimed it would be "broken in half". The USS Cole was a more heavily built ship, built for direct combat, with a much higher displacement, and with a lot more reserve buoyancy, and in that attack several compartments were breached and it took 3 days to get the damage under control.

To put it into context, a WW2 US Mark 14 torpedo carried 292 kg of torpex, which is a mix of mostly TNT and RDX, and that has destroyed more then it's fair share of much more heavily constructed vessels.

Assuming this is an RDX (or comparable) charge which is likely, you're looking at more then twice that level of destruction.

Are these not Toloka TLK-150 drones, developed in Ukraine?

Cabana_bananza

11 points

6 days ago

Though if you fuck up the drive section of a boat you will take it out of commission for months. Who knows the turn around of a Russian naval ship during peace time, let alone wartime.

Call_Me_Rivale

8 points

6 days ago

Well, sinking it and getting it out of use for the foreseeable future is not to big of a difference. Even if you sink it sailors have good chance of survival in these scenarios. So this is more about denying the sea/space, than anything else.

ghosttrainhobo

5 points

6 days ago

200kg

SCARfaceRUSH

408 points

6 days ago*

9 years of war under absolutely false pretences, MH17 tragedy and cover up, hundreds of fake stories, doctored photos, doctored videos, straight out lies and manufacture of "facts" ... yet there are still people on the Internet that use Russian sources as some form of valid information or consult them to get "both sides".

There are literally people in the comments here questioning the video because its darker than the video released by the Russians. Shocker: two cameras with different sensors and positioned differently related to the sun can produce different brightness levels.

Btw, this is what Russia does. Their goal is not to convince you of their rhetoric. Their goal is to convince you that the truth is not actually the truth, but merely one of the options.

It's a meme in Ukraine: Russian TV hosts used to throw around "not everything is so clear" (не все так однозначно) or a better adopted phrase would be "it's not that clear up, as it seems." They would use it at the end of their segments as a way of hinting at certain conclusions or lack of certainty around them. So we used this phrase in Ukraine to mock their lies.

Example: Some guys in Belgorod with yellow tape on their arms and riding Humvees? Well, it's not that clear cut. You could theoretically buy Humvees from Afghanistan, as US left a lot of them there. You can buy them in any local airsoft store, actually.

EDIT: Russian Telegrams started releasing an apparent photo of the ship presumably returning to port in Sevastopol. Turns out, it's a two-year old video from a different location.

PDXburrito

139 points

6 days ago

PDXburrito

139 points

6 days ago

This is exactly what Elon has been doing on Twitter. Amplifying conspiracy theorists, insurrectionists, and right-wingers with carefully-put comments like "interesting" and "worrisome" and "concerning". He's using his platform to mold reality in his favor.

Tiny-Plum2713

5 points

6 days ago

russian sources are usually extremely reliable. As long as they are linked to kremlin, the opposite of what is said is at least 99% likely the truth.

wary

55 points

6 days ago

wary

55 points

6 days ago

Questioning everything and anything is how most people these days cover up their ignorance and lack of knowledge. Instead of staying quiet and appearing foolish they open their mouths and remove all doubt

SCARfaceRUSH

12 points

6 days ago

Amen!

International-Ing

74 points

6 days ago

I'm sure they also want to control the narrative about the port quarter of the ship being defenseless. Which is a pretty embarrassing design defect, even if it's an intelligence collection ship.

There's some splicing because the drone turns around to evade fire from the port bow gun and then maneuvers behind and into the port quarter where there is no close in armanent. The MTPU on the port bow can't cover the port quarter. The blind spot is actually surprisingly large. Of course they could maneuver to engage but didn't.

Which makes me wonder if they ran out of ammo which would be even more embarrassing.

There are 2 x 14.5 MTPU forward and 1 x 14.5 MTPU starboard quarter. Some sites say only 2 x MTPU forward, but recent video and image of the ship shows they added the one on the starboard quarter at some point.

Old_Wallaby_7461

14 points

6 days ago

I'm surprised they didn't have a corvette or something covering it. The drones are a known quantity. Still overconfident, I guess...

JennysDad

6 points

6 days ago

They can't risk ANY capital ships, they are very afraid of the drones.

The intelligence ship was put at risk because they desperately need intelligence on the upcoming offensive.

Now they'll get nothing. Fuck Putin.

Roflkopt3r

7 points

6 days ago

I wonder, do ships like this usually operate with escorts? Even if they're "intelligence" ships, I believe that rather referrs to their sensors than being especially "sneaky".

CorsicA123

12 points

6 days ago

It goes even further. They used 2 year old video of the same ship entering Sevastopol to prove its undamaged. Later, after everyone pointed out the video, they actually made very similar ship enter the bay, to make similar looking photos

AngryRussia

1.9k points

6 days ago

AngryRussia

1.9k points

6 days ago

"Yo Zelenski, Let's load a shit ton of explosives to 500 buck craft and ram it to billionaire warship."

"Excellent idea."

LagMeister

354 points

6 days ago

LagMeister

354 points

6 days ago

It's around 250k per drone, still worth it though.

Source: https://u24.gov.ua/navaldrones (scroll all the way down).

False-God

279 points

6 days ago

False-God

279 points

6 days ago

When you compare it to the cost of other ordinance it is a bargain. That’s around what a Javelin missile costs.

Neptune rockets are estimated to cost $1.35 million per

Harpoon Block II is estimated to be $1.4 million per

Patriot is estimated at $4 million per

$250k per for a weapon that can effectively deny areas to large surface fleets is a steal.

Roflkopt3r

118 points

6 days ago

Roflkopt3r

118 points

6 days ago

And the cost of a ship like this is probably in the hundred millions.

Trying to put Russian equipment cost into dollar prices has limited use, but any way you cut it it's worth the drones many times over.

pipnina

43 points

6 days ago

pipnina

43 points

6 days ago

The REFIT cost for royal navy frigates can be budgeted at £60 million plus

Those frigates use 1980s technology (gun even controlled with DOS) so almost all the cost comes from how labour intensive they are to maintain and how fast the sea eats away at their steel hulls.

I was working in one of the machine rooms on a frigate that came in, the deck was so so rusted (top of a tank so not direct sea exposure, outside of potentially leaking pipes) that layer upon layer came off. I walked past hatch coaming that had holes around it once the concrete layer was removed and we were walking on steel.

Each frigate takes several hundred weld inserts to the external and external structure every decade or so. Ships are EXPENSIVE, so insanely expensive, and wear out fast.

devilishycleverchap

21 points

6 days ago

Yeah the biggest expense on a navy is the maintenance. China is about to reach a reckoning with all those ships they built as they come up on their maintenance cycles

kilometer17

16 points

6 days ago

Ordnance*

Ordinance is a piece of legislation

JamboFreshOk

565 points

6 days ago

The West needs to learn from this. Our powerful navies could have real trouble against Chinese mass production of similar weapons.

der_innkeeper

403 points

6 days ago

This has been the Iranian playbook since the 80s.

The USN/NATO is well aware of asymmetric naval warfare. It was the primary driver of CIWS upgrades in the late 90s/early 00s.

SteveD88

112 points

6 days ago

SteveD88

112 points

6 days ago

I remember a naval officer explaining to me that the British Type 45 guided missile destroyer (effectively just a massive platform to hoist a very powerful radar as high as possible) was intended to counter both sea-skimming missiles and detect boat/drone swarms at a range they could be dealt with.

Wonderful-Smoke843

7 points

6 days ago

I’m other words CWIS GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

RoyalwithCheese10

521 points

6 days ago

The difference is the US Navy is functional and its CIWS work

Daxtatter

109 points

6 days ago

Daxtatter

109 points

6 days ago

Honestly I think suicide drone boats like this would be a great defensive measure for Taiwan.

Phaarao

176 points

6 days ago

Phaarao

176 points

6 days ago

Unlike Ukraine, Taiwan has thousands of modern antiship missile (more than enough for every troop carrier of China) which are far more effective than these slow ass drones.

pm0me0yiff

37 points

6 days ago

But I wouldn't mind having drones also.

BlackAlbinoTurtle

18 points

6 days ago

CIWS work

As long as there's someone to change it to auto.

Saw a video form Operations Room where a US Ship got hit, the CWIS was tracking the plane and missile but they "forgot" to set to fire mode.

Jaqen___Hghar

7 points

6 days ago

An operator must manually authorize discharge (like a trigger) for each target that is tracked. An entirely automatic system would inevitably fire upon friendly and civilian aircraft.

delcas1016

53 points

6 days ago

The USA Navy has been facing mass Iranian speed boats for over a decade in the gulf, the strategy is very well known. I’m not saying they’ve actually attacked, but they like to flex their muscle and unleash chaos in close proximity.

listeningwind42

8 points

6 days ago

yep. It's just Jeune Ecole in modern times. It might cause some tactical adjustments but it isn't going to be a real threat long term.

TheSaltyPeasant

28 points

6 days ago

The US military has plenty of countermeasures for this kind of stuff. Same for standard drones, all the stuff you see of drones hovering over Russian troops and dropping grenades wouldn’t work against the US.

Wise-Profile4256

7 points

6 days ago

Now the German-Japanese co-development for drones in the Pacific makes a lot more sense.

ashesofempires

67 points

6 days ago

Uh, not to burst your bubble, but some of the naval drones Ukraine is using, are from the US.

They were first handed over last June as part of an aid package announced in May. The crazy footage we saw of them attacking ships in Sevastopol is of American naval drones.

max_k23

25 points

6 days ago

max_k23

25 points

6 days ago

Uh, not to burst your bubble, but some of the naval drones Ukraine is using, are from the US.

Yes they've been using them indeed, but those suicide USVs are manufactured in Ukraine mostly with COTS components.

trevdak2

26 points

6 days ago

trevdak2

26 points

6 days ago

Thought those were canoes outfitted with starlink and outboard motors.

Sounds like im joking but I'm not.

ozarkansas

35 points

6 days ago

That sort of thing is what the littoral combat ship is supposed to protect against. That program has been a total cluster though

Lite_Byte

6 points

6 days ago

I bought mine already on AliExpress...I can tell you it's not worth it.

killjoy_ua

631 points

6 days ago*

killjoy_ua

631 points

6 days ago*

Must be embarrassing to lose to a nation without proper Navy. But given the Black Sea Fleet reputation, that's perfectly normal.

GoodByeRubyTuesday87

254 points

6 days ago

They’re losing a naval war to a country without a proper navy. Even more amazing.

Peacer13

58 points

6 days ago

Peacer13

58 points

6 days ago

Can't lose a naval war if it's a "special military operation".

kr_edn

13 points

6 days ago

kr_edn

13 points

6 days ago

Hey, at least they aren't the Baltic fleet.

Hunting Japanese spy boats.

In Denmark and shit.

Filblo5

6 points

6 days ago

Filblo5

6 points

6 days ago

Dont forget getting clapped 100 years before that by a smaller fleet. (Battle of svensksund) 50-80 ships lost and they only sank 6 swedish ships.

Mind you this was after the swedish fleet had done a breakout action from being blockaded. Baltic fleet has always been terrible.

GQ_Quinobi

27 points

6 days ago

Would be helpful if this regime thought this way but they just find a person to blame and do a balcony toss.

GremlinX_ll

17 points

6 days ago

Balcony toss will continue until situation improve

Ismokeditalleveryday

376 points

6 days ago

Those Ukrainian naval drones pack a big explosive, that spy ship was definitely damaged.

notataco007

202 points

6 days ago

notataco007

202 points

6 days ago

Aimed right near the rudder and props too

DoktorFisse

66 points

6 days ago

Is this a particular weak spot on such a boat?

2022wtf

203 points

6 days ago

2022wtf

203 points

6 days ago

Bismarck was only caught after her rudder was jammed by a lucky torpedo hit.

ChairmanMatt

33 points

6 days ago

And Prince of Wales, which had successfully torpedobeated like 20+, was done in by a single torpedo impact at the rear which damaged a propeller shaft (which pokes out through a ideally-well-sealed hole beneath the waterline), and led to massive uncontrollable flooding

Fr4t

34 points

6 days ago

Fr4t

34 points

6 days ago

Yeah they even tried to get away since the frame was intact but everything else on the ship was fucked by the constant bombardment of the allied hunting party. In the end the crew sank the ship themselves so that it wouldn't fall into enemy hands.

Rexster405

34 points

6 days ago

might sound like a nerd but bismarck was the only ship to be referred to as

"he" since the Germans thought it was too powerful to be a she.

TheOtherDrunkenOtter

46 points

6 days ago*

Im surprised im only seeing one person give an accurate answer. Yes, the props in particular are a weak spot.

The prop shaft typically runs a relatively large proportion of the ship, will bend and flex and shift and rarely even "whip" under the best of circumstances.

This "flexing" tube is not only positioned at one of the few points where the hull has a gap below sea level, but it also penetrates every single waterproof compartment that the shaft is passing through.

It also takes an enormous amount of stress due to the volume of water it is shifting and the typical length of a warship shaft.

So flexible tube taking immense stress at holes that need to stay sealed? Its a weak spot on all warships. Im sure Russian engineering only enhances that. Added link of battleship new jerseys prop shaft, obviously different sizes but same conversation here.

https://youtu.be/4cwRXA9YH60

Smoogs2

43 points

6 days ago

Smoogs2

43 points

6 days ago

Weak spot in that if you disable the rudder with an explosion, the ship can become unable to steer. This is how the Bismarck sank. But a single explosion (of this size) to the rudder will unlikely be able to sink a warship (of this size).

forte2

31 points

6 days ago*

forte2

31 points

6 days ago*

As long as you actually close your watertight compartments up.
I'd wager the reason Moskva sank was because she wasn't buttoned up and more compartments flooded than she could handle. The last image of her she was heavily listing and down in the water.
While she was hit amidships there was soot from all her port side portholes which would correlate to fire spreading past bulkheads which should have prevented that.
Oh dear... https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1661755360191864832/photo/1

Smoogs2

10 points

6 days ago

Smoogs2

10 points

6 days ago

As long as you actually close your watertight compartments up.

Yeah and Mosk was hit with multiple missiles and the ammo storage exploded, so the explosions spanned multiple bulkheads and was internal. This is one drone boat explosion which would only span 1 bulkhead, 2 at absolute most. Mosk probably was flooding via 3-4 bulkheads after their ammo storage detonated.

holysmartone

13 points

6 days ago

Not necessarily weaker, but attacking the props and rudder can take out propulsion and steering and make the ship unable to maneuver, which is obviously a very bad thing.

BigHekigChungus

8 points

6 days ago

Yea. Rudders and props are exposed in the water. The driveshaft will get messed up from the explosion. Hopefully the engines are messed up too, since Russia can’t easily replace those.

sciotomile

28 points

6 days ago

One of the missiles that struck the Moskva was targeted onto the rudder. You hear in the SOS call that was posted here a week or so ago that they were struck in the tail and the rudder was struck and inoperative.

max_k23

18 points

6 days ago

max_k23

18 points

6 days ago

You hear in the SOS call that was posted here a week or so ago that they were struck in the tail and the rudder was struck and inoperative

Moskva was hit dead in the centre by both missiles (which is the part with the biggest radar return, which makes sense)

_freack_

70 points

6 days ago

_freack_

70 points

6 days ago

pretty decent video quality also.

befowler

171 points

6 days ago

befowler

171 points

6 days ago

A lot of people seem confused by the “contact” title — we know from Russia’s own footage that these drones pack a serious explosive punch, and the feed cutting out here is because it successfully detonated. It did not need to actually touch the ship, although from the approach vector it probably did and the feed delay just didn’t transmit it in time. Regardless, detonating that close to the waterline of a warship with little or no armor is going to do a lot of damage. The USS Cole is an example, where a small boat holding explosives pulled up alongside and blew a 40 foot hole in the hull.

ChrisBPeppers

28 points

6 days ago

It might have hit the vessel. There's always a delay on these videos so the last seconds are missing

pm0me0yiff

10 points

6 days ago

And the Cole was a bigger ship with better armor.

degotoga

8 points

6 days ago

degotoga

8 points

6 days ago

that was a shaped charge using more explosive tho. iirc this is just a 500lb bomb

the_other_OTZ

289 points

6 days ago

Aftermath would be great to see.

Shaelz

109 points

6 days ago

Shaelz

109 points

6 days ago

Guessing it didn't sink the ship or we would have heard ?

ParkingPsychology

65 points

6 days ago

It'll show up in a harbor soon enough if it didn't sink.

Pokuo

99 points

6 days ago

Pokuo

99 points

6 days ago

So far only thing we've heard was Russian claim they destroyed 150% of the attacking drones, so it's not out of the question that it's resting at the bottom of the Black Sea right now.

kelsosam

12 points

6 days ago

kelsosam

12 points

6 days ago

No no, it is merely submarine joining rest of Black Sea fleet

Strong-Obligation107

15 points

6 days ago

Unlikely that it would sink the ship, but if it detonated successfully then that ship is definitely going back to port for extensive repairs and some sailors will require new eardrums.... and pants.

But then again, it's a Russian ship so there's a fare chance in mostly fiberglass and ali express "quacktape"

SuppliceVI

5 points

6 days ago

It took about a week for actual confirmation of the Moskva to sink.

Give it time. At the very least it won't be collecting intelligence for months

OTL22

240 points

6 days ago

OTL22

240 points

6 days ago

"Yeah we destroyed all them drones"

Did you though?

killjoy_ua

194 points

6 days ago

killjoy_ua

194 points

6 days ago

Yeah, technically all the drones were destroyed, including this one. You gotta read Russian statements between the lines.

GrimeySloth

33 points

6 days ago

I mean...the drone in the video is destroyed

TheHyperion25

102 points

6 days ago

If it was armed like that one in the other video that got blown up, this did some serious damage.

nonlawyer

183 points

6 days ago

nonlawyer

183 points

6 days ago

boop

ouath

44 points

6 days ago

ouath

44 points

6 days ago

Let's hope there is a third video

Sweaty-Internal2213

129 points

6 days ago

The Russians lied!? No way!

dead-inside69

39 points

6 days ago

Actually crying right now, they would never.

kuprenx

71 points

6 days ago

kuprenx

71 points

6 days ago

imagine beeing WW2 soldier and seeing like POV view of torpedo

Weird-Tomorrow-9829

63 points

6 days ago

I mean the German Neger and Japanese Kaiten had POV’s from torpedoes.

_HIST

29 points

6 days ago

_HIST

29 points

6 days ago

Kaitens were insane. Openable only from the outside, a complete suicide mission even if you miss. Also turned out to be rather useless

pm0me0yiff

10 points

6 days ago

Openable only from the outside, a complete suicide mission even if you miss.

Probably helps with the ol' motivation for their suicide pilots. If you're guaranteed to die either way, you might as well go through with it and try to make an effective hit.

jdsekula

12 points

6 days ago

jdsekula

12 points

6 days ago

Kind of gives away that their “volunteers” weren’t exactly 100% willing.

max_k23

55 points

6 days ago

max_k23

55 points

6 days ago

the German Neger and

🤨

FlorAhhh

18 points

6 days ago

FlorAhhh

18 points

6 days ago

It was a different time, don't be too hard on the Nazis.

[deleted]

23 points

6 days ago

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23 points

6 days ago

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Wolfgang3750

49 points

6 days ago

If you're looking for the other video that shows one of these drones being countered: That's a big boom.

anonspas

9 points

6 days ago

anonspas

9 points

6 days ago

Fucking hell, that must have done a lot of dmg when this hit the ship!

Nice!

marcvsHR

14 points

6 days ago

marcvsHR

14 points

6 days ago

Yeaaahhh... this probably left a scratch O_o

chronic221987

11 points

6 days ago

If this had the same payload as the one that was destroyed. Then it was big boom.

No_Albatross_8475

39 points

6 days ago

Right in the poop deck!

Marcobra

5 points

6 days ago

Marcobra

5 points

6 days ago

There's gonna be a lot of seamen in that water if that thing actually penetrated

__radioactivepanda__

12 points

6 days ago

The Russians weren’t lying that all drone ships were intercepted. It’s just that at least one was intercepted with a warship’s hull…

UnusualTough3293

19 points

6 days ago

If it’s explosive payload is same as drone Russian ship took out….. this thing messed some stuff up on that boat!

TS_76

19 points

6 days ago

TS_76

19 points

6 days ago

Going to guess that this one happened AFTER the video of the first one we saw. If it happened the other way around, i'm pretty sure the guy taking the video would have something better to be doing.. like damage control.

Also, the fact we saw any video from the Russian POV tells me the ship likely didnt sink. For one, if it sank the guy taking the video might be, yeh know, dead.. as Russian Search and Rescue is sub optimal. Assuming hes not dead, I doubt the Russians would release video like that of a ship that ultimately sunk. You can lie about taking a hit, but a warship totally disappearing and not returning to port is going to raise a lot of question from families.

I'm going to go with first video destroyed (obviously), and this video the ship took a hit (obviously) but did not sink unfortunately.

FrankExchange0fViews

16 points

6 days ago

the guy taking the video would have something better to be doing.. like damage control.

Damage control? On a russian warship? They don't do that there.

zuff

10 points

6 days ago

zuff

10 points

6 days ago

In previous russian news video first thing being said is "all enemy boats were destroyed". Well, they technically aren't wrong.

Was impressed that russian news for once speak truth, but not for long, next phrase was "destroyed by our ships weapons". Oh well.

_Laserface_

16 points

6 days ago

AlexWayhill

5 points

6 days ago

Now in good company with the underwater helicopters 😂

Enigma556

29 points

6 days ago

Enigma556

29 points

6 days ago

And then what happened?

killjoy_ua

72 points

6 days ago

Jagga jagga.

GremlinX_ll

108 points

6 days ago

GremlinX_ll

108 points

6 days ago

big bada boom

_vinpetrol

17 points

6 days ago

And then two of the elements: fire and water.

InterestingCell6403

16 points

6 days ago

Rest in peace to the Tiny Cameraman recording this Wonderful piece of War Footage🙏

RandomTurkey247

6 points

6 days ago

So kids, that's the story of how submarines are made.

yalloc

6 points

6 days ago

yalloc

6 points

6 days ago

Man that's embarassing. If theres anything this ship should be able to do its to jam the hell out of this video feed, and it failed even at that.

broforwin

92 points

6 days ago*

Well we only saw footage of one of them being blown up. Also it was very bright in that footage. This footage looks like early morning or evening-ish?

1nfinitydividedby0

195 points

6 days ago

I don't think it is pragmatic to judge time of day by brightness levels of two different cameras.

GI_Bill_Trap_Lord

87 points

6 days ago

Don’t tell /r/UFOs that

FloatingRevolver

7 points

6 days ago

That sub is nuts... Everyone there KNOWS that every post is real or fake, those psychos can never just be like "idk man"

broforwin

18 points

6 days ago

broforwin

18 points

6 days ago

Fair, the camera quality might be also vastly different per source.

fanspacex

28 points

6 days ago

fanspacex

28 points

6 days ago

With Russians you have to assume 100% lies when they speak, this number can be reduced by further investigating the claims.

Jockel76

11 points

6 days ago

Jockel76

11 points

6 days ago

Yes, maybe this explosion disabled the ship and they went for the kill.

MOLPODD

5 points

6 days ago

MOLPODD

5 points

6 days ago

Amazing footage, what a time to be alive.

aSimpleUkrainian

5 points

6 days ago

russian Black Sea fleet will be destroyed

polerize

5 points

6 days ago

polerize

5 points

6 days ago

Drones are cheap. Ships are expensive. Going to have to figure out how to deal with drones if you want to keep your boats on the water instead of under.

AnimalMother250

5 points

6 days ago

"Russian intelligence". Kind of an oxymoron isn't it?

gyutop

4 points

6 days ago

gyutop

4 points

6 days ago

Anyone else feel like the CIA and NSA are absolutely wheezing when they see this stuff?

Blade_000

5 points

6 days ago

Marine Traffic shows a Russian vessel in that area moving at a slow speed and accompanied by a Tug. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:29.728/centery:42.225/zoom:14