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441 points
2 months ago
I'm 54 and this is literally the first time I'm hearing about this.
155 points
2 months ago
Yeah… people are out there flushing their AC line MONTHLY!? Wtf.
20 points
2 months ago
Bout twice a summer I add a bit of bleach to the drain line. A bit excessive but easier than correcting a clog.
3 points
2 months ago
I work in hvac and we like to see people Use apple cider vinegar instead of bleach. Bleach is corrosive.
1 points
2 months ago
You can also use vinegar, we have a primary and secondary line and I pour about a cup of white vinegar down each once a month.
102 points
2 months ago
I’m not quite that old but owned an AC company with 50 trucks and never once did we tell clients to do this monthly.
1 points
2 months ago
Yeah my company suggests two time a year.
We did three when I was working in Louisiana but once a month is crazy.
91 points
2 months ago
Man, I'm a qualified HVAC tech of 25 years...
This is the first I've heard about it too.
45 points
2 months ago
I’m Will Carrier inventor of the compressor in 1922, I have never done this
25 points
2 months ago
I’m Herm Edwards, former coach of the New York jets and I clean out my drain line once a week. You play, to win, the game.
1 points
2 months ago
I'm Rueben Trane inventor of the cooling coil in 1931 and I have never done this either
3 points
2 months ago
Have you seen many clogs in these lines?
22 points
2 months ago
Lmfao I have an old unit that has been running for like 30 years. I bought the house in 2017 and it still starts up every summer but the lady that lived here before was like 90. Highly doubt it has ever been cleaned.
2 points
2 months ago
it’s kinda like how some people are able to live to 87 while smoking for the last 60 years. just a chance but can be avoided.
1 points
2 months ago
We do it as part of our maintenance package.
If that unit lasted 30 years she was probably taking care of it
1 points
2 months ago
She's kind of an energy sucker so I'm running it until it dies then will just get a more efficient unit.
11 points
2 months ago
Typically there's a floater relay in the drainpan that will shut th AC off if it gets too full. You'll know quick when the AC doesn't come on, but it beats water coming through your ceiling.
You can get bleach/chlorine tablets at Lowes or Home Depot, and you drop one of those in your drainpan every spring to keep your lines clean.
(This is the unit inside your attic, not the one outside)
Same as a cold beer on a hot day, the AC forms condensation on its outside. That water has to go somewhere. Normally that's a PVC line leading to outside the house, but if that line's clogged and your relay is broken, that water's coming down in your bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, wherever.
6 points
2 months ago
Unit in the attic? Don’t you put them outside?
3 points
2 months ago*
2 parts , mate. One on the outside that dumps heat, one in the attic that does the chilling (and dumps down cold air)
ETA: And water
2 points
2 months ago
The condenser goes outside. That’s the big thing with the fan.
Your air handler/furnace goes in a controlled climate space, either an attic, crawl space or closet.
1 points
2 months ago
You should have two float switches installed if you’re air handler is in your attic/above anything in your home.
One in-line in your primary drain line like you’ve described.
The other switch goes into the pan under your air handler as a back up safety. If the unit does not go out on the primary switch it will go off as the pan starts to fill up.
2 points
2 months ago
I work in HVAC and we suggest flushing your drain lines twice a year. Once before the hot season and once at the end.
If you live in a super humid climate maybe a third time a year if you’re running the AC consistently.
You can also pour a cup of apple cider vinegar in the drains to help keep it clear.
DO NOT USE BLEACH LIKE SOME PEOPLE SUGGEST, this can cause problems for your coil and drains.
1 points
2 months ago
It makes a little sense if you use window units that are prone to mold. I had to put a little bleach in mine, but it also didn't drain completely properly.
123 points
2 months ago
I've done nothing with my air-conditioner other than mow around it for 23 years. I don't even know how to turn it on and off. It seems fine.
18 points
2 months ago*
This would be inside. The evaporator coils sit on top of or just above the furnace and it has a condensate line for drainage, most likely PVC or cpvc. This line can get debris in it and clog up leading to water build up and a leak. If the people who installed the system are kind, then there will be a Tee fitting near the start of it that you can use to pour something like vinegar into to clean it out. If not then you'll probably have to open the coils and pour the vinegar into the line from there.
Edit: evaporator coils not condenser. Been a while since I worked in HVAC got my terminology mixed up.
6 points
2 months ago
Isn't it the evaporator inside near the furnace not the condenser?
5 points
2 months ago
My condenser is located outside, while my furnace is in the attic. I was told to hose down the condenser every month to keep it clean.
2 points
2 months ago
I meant the evaporator is inside. Been years since I worked in HVAC, got my terminology mixed up. Hosing the condenser down once a month is some easy preventative maintenance. Many don't really need it manually hosed down at all. While we also used to service some cause they would get so clogged up with cottonwood that it would stop all air flow. Just one of those things where you probably can get away with not doing it manually, and just letting rain mostly take care of it, but doing it is an easy way to not find out if yours will get too clogged up to function.
1 points
2 months ago
Yea you're right. Been years since I worked in HVAC got my terminology mixed up
1 points
2 months ago
No problem at all!
1 points
2 months ago
I have to do mine every couple of months or it gets backed up and my ac turns off. It’s kind of a pain, but I just deal with it. I have a smaller piece of hose that I put on the end of my hose and this smaller piece has an attachment to turn the water flow off or on. I normally just shove it in the pipe, and crank it on till it is running outside.
1 points
2 months ago
A dehumidifier or UV light would probably help with that.
1 points
2 months ago
Thank you. I have a uv light. Not sure why it seems like it does nothing. And of course they want $250 to replace it. I need to figure out how to replace it myself I guess.
68 points
2 months ago
Also clean your filters inside the air-conditioning unit itself. They build up dust and dirt over time and can be bad for asthma sufferers as well as causing sore throats and what not.
44 points
2 months ago
Qualified HVAC tech.
Yes, clean filters. Actually important.
I've never heard of anyone flushing drains once a month, or at all unless they have a blockage...
4 points
2 months ago
Do you mean the furnace filter that gets replaced every few months?
6 points
2 months ago
No, the air conditioning filter.
No idea about furnaces, I live in Australia.
8 points
2 months ago
Dumb question, is this the filter in the furnace in your basement or is there a filter in the outside AC unit? I change my furnace filter every 2 months but never touched the outside AC and don't know how
2 points
2 months ago
If you have the same forced air system for both heating and cooling then it would be the same filter for both. The outside unit is just a condenser and circulates the cooling to the blower.
Our house has 5 filters - 4 on ceiling vent intakes on our 2nd floor and 1 on the intake from outdoors. We were in a rental for a month before this house that had one filter for both the indoor circulation and outdoor intake.
0 points
2 months ago
No idea about the furnace I live in Australia, I don't even have a second floor never mind a basement haha. I have a reverse cycle unit that heats and cools the entire house. I'll be honest I get it professionally maintained once or twice a year so I don't touch it. However I have lived in houses with single wall mounted units and they have a filter on the front, open the door remove and clean. You probably still want a proper clean once a year maybe but that's what I do with that type.
59 points
2 months ago
How does one do this?
28 points
2 months ago
Ah, the age-old question of how to keep your AC drain clear - almost as confusing as trying to figure out which Kardashian is which.
11 points
2 months ago
I think you’re supposed to pour bleach down it
38 points
2 months ago
Use vinegar, bleach is hella corosive to metal, in some AC units like mine pouring it in the place thats easy to open (and therefore the one that most people would open) that bleach will flow past metal and rust it. Bleach is effective but only use it if you are 100% sure its going to a place where its not interacting with metal.
8 points
2 months ago
This is good advice, thanks for mentioning. I believe my condensation drains are all PVC though
Edit: spelling
9 points
2 months ago
HVAC guy here. It's not the condensation lines that will rust, but the coil which sits in your drain pain. The coils hold in high pressures of refrigerant, and it will find even the smallest hole to leak from. Even a small leak can ruin a newer system, as most refrigerants are blends that can leak out independently.
2 points
2 months ago
My safety float is where I have to put it in if I don’t want to grab tools, it goes to the drain pan, the bottom of my interior coils also sit in the pan. I didnt know this until I sent a scope up the pipe one day after a particularly stubborn clog. The good thing is vinegar removes rust too.
2 points
2 months ago
This is the way . First of each month I use a measuring cup to pour one cup of bleach into the drain line. It’s a pvc pipe with a cap located near the slot where the filter goes. I keep a gallon of bleach and the cup in the little closet that houses the unit. At the same time I replace the filter. In the spring I have a technician do a cleaning and check up on the A/C and likewise in the fall for the heating system. My unit is well over ten years old and in excellent condition.
2 points
2 months ago
I just bring my water hose to the roof and flush the line.
2 points
2 months ago
I just pound on my acoil while the fan is running and it loosens things up. Results will definitely vary
2 points
2 months ago*
There's a curious PVC pipe sticking out of the A/C unit, likely with a cap on it -- pour a cup of white vinegar down it every few months to reduce bacteria and algae.
Outside, there's another PVC pipe; it's where everything drains out of. Once a year (or as needed,) attach a wet vac and run it until the hose stops bouncing. Make sure you're sucking and not blowing.
I think this is mainly for tropical and/or high humidity applications. For the most part, it's for removing algae growth. If you don't live anyplace particularly hot or humid, and your A/C has been problem-free for years, then it's probably unnecessary.
21 points
2 months ago
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6 points
2 months ago
Same what do we do
3 points
2 months ago
You are changing your filters right?
4 points
2 months ago
My A/C guy uses some type of compressed air and sprays it out. But yes. At least use vinegar.
23 points
2 months ago
Ok I just dumped a bottle of vinegar in the floor vent. What do I do now? Is it fixed?
15 points
2 months ago
Now add potatoes and salt
12 points
2 months ago
...and baby you got a stew going.
1 points
2 months ago
So that's how they make those yummy crispy things
2 points
2 months ago
Some can last 10 years before they clog especially if the entire drain line is new. Check your P trap at the unit (if it’s gas furnace it may not have a trap) that’s the main culprit for clogs. Also if it drains into a bathroom sink check that trap also.
1 points
2 months ago
I buy AC filters by the dozen and change it on the first of every month. I learned two ways to clean (the slime) out my drain line. Compressed air blown from the inside out works amazing. The other is a shop vac from the outside. You have to make a seal of some sort for the vacuum. Don’t pour bleach. I don’t even like vinegar. All corrosive. It is customary to have your unit serviced every year to be sure it’s not leaking refrigerant, not growing mold in the coils, not clogged, etc. it’s usually less than $150. I cannot for the life of me understand how people live without changing their filters. So GROSS. You are breathing that and making it nearly impossible for your unit to operate properly. And it promotes mold growth in the coils. Yuk! Call and schedule a service asap and watch what they do!
1 points
2 months ago
Yes. We got a mega leak right under ours and it traveled to a wall in another room. The roof partially fell in because of the water damage
28 points
2 months ago
LPT: not everyone lives in the northern hemisphere.
4 points
2 months ago
Yeah for half the planet it's getting into autumn
2 points
2 months ago
PSA: Not many people outside of the US have AC (besides businesses)
1 points
2 months ago
Why are you providing that PSA in response to my comment?
3 points
2 months ago
To add to it for all the Americans here with their r/USdefaultism
1 points
2 months ago
Cool cool cool. My mind immediately assumed you were from the US and were thinking that Europe was in the southern hemisphere. 😂
0 points
2 months ago
You mean the top half of the USA?
18 points
2 months ago
The Southern hemisphere disagrees...
7 points
2 months ago
Minnesotan wandering in here to laugh bitterly
7 points
2 months ago
I got tired of cleaning mine out and the unit is in the attic so it's a freaking mess if it clogs. I went out to my shop and grabbed a couple of scrap pieces of window screen, wadded it up into two balls, and stuffed one in each end of the drain line. No more clogs.
3 points
2 months ago
Monthly is a bit much but can’t hurt
4 points
2 months ago
We're in Florida, so our AC runs about 10 months of the year. Our condensate drain line is 1.06" O.D. PVC pipe. We have a small shop vac with a hose that fits neatly over the PVC pipe. Once a month, I hook up the shop vac and suck out the drain line for 10 minutes.
The only time we've had an AC failure was when a service tech left the cap off the clean out tee and the vacuum couldn't clean the first 18 inches of the drain line. The tech put chemicals in the tee, which obviously didn't get to the part of the drain line upstream from the clean out. Once I replaced the cap and vacuumed the drain, all was well.
Tldr: Skip the chemicals, use a shop vac to keep your condensate drain line clear.
2 points
2 months ago
This right here. FL as well
2 points
2 months ago
Won't it just suck air if there's no clog?
1 points
2 months ago
Yes, sucking air and water at high speed through the condensate line is exactly the goal of using the wet/dry vac.
1 points
2 months ago
My drain comes out from the attic, I'm sticking with vinegar :) I need to climb into the attic to replace the filter anyway
15 points
2 months ago
It literally snowed yesterday... It aint anywhere near air conditioner weather yet.
3 points
2 months ago
Same here. Woke up to a fresh dusting of snow.
7 points
2 months ago
It was 90 degrees at my house yesterday
1 points
2 months ago
Snowing right now.
1 points
2 months ago
Must suck.
2 points
2 months ago
Nah it’s fine. I didn’t move here for tropical beaches and hot weather. Bad winters keep people away and my small town small.
1 points
2 months ago
Yep. Record high 91F today
1 points
2 months ago
Can confirm over here as well. I live in Californian - when it's not raining it's cold AF still.
7 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the reminder. Germany has been getting hotter and hotter and I think this year I will finally buy an AC to cool the bedroom during the hellish months of summer
9 points
2 months ago
Life pro tip: There’s a Southern Hemisphere. It’s getting cooler.
3 points
2 months ago
They sell AC drain line cleaner tablets that help keep the drain line clear for awhile.
2 points
2 months ago
I don't think my air conditioner even has a condensation drain line but I clean the filter/screen occasionally
1 points
2 months ago
It def has some way of removing condensation
2 points
2 months ago
Definitely don't need to do it every month. Do check your filter every few months if your unit is running a lot. Flushing the line every 4 months is more than enough.
2 points
2 months ago
For sure check the drain line. It depends on how yours is set up. Mine runs into a standpipe that's open to the air at the top. If the line were to plug, it will overflow near a floor drain anyway so that's not a big deal.
For me, it's air flow. If your air handler is in your basement utility room it's icing that's going to get you. You need air flow and a quality air filter that allows enough air to move across the coils.
Here's what happens. The filter gets plugged. Because it's plugged, the system can't flow enough air to keep the coils dry and evaporation stops. The coils keep getting colder but the cold air isn't going anywhere so ice starts building up on the coils. The A/C is almost constantly running at this point but not cooling. So some jagweed turns down the A/C even more until the system gets stuck on. If it does stop, it short cycles back on again right away and keeps trying to cool down the room. Now you have a huge block of ice inside the air handler and basically zero cooling.
Now, you need to pull the filter and turn off the A/C for a few hours. Let the house warm up and let all that water drip melt, drip off, and dry out. If you can short it to keep the blower going while it melts, that would be nice but the whole house fan typically runs at low speed.
During this time, run over to the hardware store and buy a decent dehumidifier and just run the drain line from that straight into a floor drain so you don't have to worry about emptying the pan. Set it to 50% and leave it. They aren't expensive and they last for years.
Now make sure that you change your filter regularly and don't try to set your house to 65F. A regular cooling system won't be able to keep up and you'll get icing again. 74F is perfectly fine. You won't die and it'll feel a hell of a lot cooler than the 90F that it is outside.
2 points
2 months ago
I'm in Scotland. What's an air conditioner? I know what the words mean, I've just never seen them used together before now.
2 points
2 months ago
Get yourself a condensate overflow alarm, too. Especially if the system is in the attic.
1 points
2 months ago
Yes. Mine have an overflow switch that shuts the unit down if it floats up from water backing up in the pan. Called a Float Switch.
2 points
2 months ago
"Getting warm again" - You're freaking lucky if that's the case for you.
3 points
2 months ago
I failed to fo this for several years once. It cost several hundred dollars to fix and would have only have taken a minute or two every year. Well worth the time.
-1 points
2 months ago
what air conditioners?? don't have any
0 points
2 months ago*
NOT bleach! Fuck me dead. You're the kind of people that wash your car with Dawn too, cause you don't believe the specialty aisle full of Meguiars and Turtle Wax knows its job, aintcha.
They sell things just for this.
The pros will use stronger stuff than this but for your average homeowner, ac pan slime killing tablets and ac fin cleaner.
Wots that? You wanna know what the pros use?
Righty on, bulk concentrate of fin cleaner and time release algae kill pills
1 points
2 months ago
Mine has a pump to move the condensate up to the ceiling so it can travel over to a drain. I live in fear that the pump will fail and the AC will just keep pumping out water, flood my basement, and ruin my engineered hardwood.
1 points
2 months ago
Get a floatswitch for your pan.
1 points
2 months ago
Is this a thing for all HVAC units? We have a combo AC / furnace unit, but it’s on the roof. We’ve lived here 10 years and never checked this???
1 points
2 months ago
Wish I knew about this a few years ago! Great tip and those who have never done it, you really should! It’ll save you a headache when it all gets backed up.
1 points
2 months ago
This is probably good advise.
I’m wondering if anyone actually had a parent teach them this?
1 points
2 months ago
Unit is at least 15 years old. Never had a problem. Now that I know this, I bet the bitch clogs up. Thanks, dude.
1 points
2 months ago
we don't mean you San Francisco, because it's fucking cold still
1 points
2 months ago
My what and the what now?
1 points
2 months ago
Just get your spring/fall maintenance and you’ll be fine
1 points
2 months ago
Ah, the joys of renting! U____U
1 points
2 months ago
Lol what. We just had a snowstorm where I’m at yesterday
1 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the reminder!
1 points
2 months ago
Just grab your trusty Shop Vac and insert the outside drain in it briefly, blocking the rest of the opening with your hand. It'll clear out any spider web or other insect buildup that could clog it up and cause water buildup inside the unit and drip down your wall. It's unlikely but you never know.
My installer told me to do it at least once a year. I do it whenever I have the vacuum outside for the cars or whatever.
1 points
2 months ago
Who even owns a house? Just call maintenance or your landlord, ain't my problem gotta go to work!
1 points
2 months ago
Do you have a how to?
1 points
2 months ago
Laughs in Coloradan. I got 2 inches of snow last night.
1 points
2 months ago
But it's like 43° F at my house. What is this "warm" of which you speak?
1 points
2 months ago
How hard would it be for people to include a link showing us how to do this? M
1 points
2 months ago
Literally had to do this a few hours ago. It’s turning into a bi-monthly occurrence for some reason.
1 points
2 months ago
It snowed twice this week in Oregon
1 points
2 months ago
Bold of you to assume I know what this means.
1 points
2 months ago
Somebody left a hose running… In the south, that’s what condensation drain lines look like.
Moved to the south a few years ago, condensation drain line’s P trap was clogged and overflowed into a dirty clothes bin.
Cleaned trap with a wet/dry vac.
1 points
2 months ago
Professional in the industry here. Having to clean out a drain once a month is nonsense. Although it should get checked every season for sure. If your drain clogs that often something else is very much the problem. Like some type of indoor environment problem.
1 points
2 months ago
You worry about your own drain line, buddy.
1 points
2 months ago
Had ours at work get clogged years ago. Unit was in a closet and the platform it was mounted to was standing water. Mine at home got clogged last year. Had water start soaking the ceiling in the bathroom. The main drain line out of the unit was clogged and the drain on the overflow pan had what was probably dirt dauber nests in it. Blasted out both with a water hose from outside. Only thing I could think of in the middle of the night.
1 points
2 months ago
Is this a newer problem for newer systems? Never in my life has this ever been something that needed doing.
Drain pan? Like, my hot water heater has a drain pan, but the AC compressor and stuff is outside and that shit just drains on to the ground.
1 points
2 months ago
Change your furnace filters.
1 points
2 months ago
I still have snow in my yard
1 points
2 months ago
Wow. People can actually afford air conditioners. I can’t even imagine owning one
1 points
2 months ago
I do this with 4 cups of vinegar followed by 4 cups of warm water once a quarter.
1 points
2 months ago
Reading this when there’s a two day snowstorm going on
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