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rpbanker

441 points

2 months ago

rpbanker

441 points

2 months ago

I'm 54 and this is literally the first time I'm hearing about this.

rypher

155 points

2 months ago

rypher

155 points

2 months ago

Yeah… people are out there flushing their AC line MONTHLY!? Wtf.

Longshot_45

20 points

2 months ago

Bout twice a summer I add a bit of bleach to the drain line. A bit excessive but easier than correcting a clog.

freakksho

3 points

2 months ago

I work in hvac and we like to see people Use apple cider vinegar instead of bleach. Bleach is corrosive.

PogoArrow

1 points

2 months ago

You can also use vinegar, we have a primary and secondary line and I pour about a cup of white vinegar down each once a month.

traker998

102 points

2 months ago

traker998

102 points

2 months ago

I’m not quite that old but owned an AC company with 50 trucks and never once did we tell clients to do this monthly.

freakksho

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah my company suggests two time a year.

We did three when I was working in Louisiana but once a month is crazy.

halpnousernames

91 points

2 months ago

Man, I'm a qualified HVAC tech of 25 years...

This is the first I've heard about it too.

Suspicious_Ad_5145

45 points

2 months ago

I’m Will Carrier inventor of the compressor in 1922, I have never done this

Elegant-Sell-4372

25 points

2 months ago

I’m Herm Edwards, former coach of the New York jets and I clean out my drain line once a week. You play, to win, the game.

sidewalkoyster

1 points

2 months ago

I'm Rueben Trane inventor of the cooling coil in 1931 and I have never done this either

manjar

3 points

2 months ago

manjar

3 points

2 months ago

Have you seen many clogs in these lines?

eblackham

22 points

2 months ago

Lmfao I have an old unit that has been running for like 30 years. I bought the house in 2017 and it still starts up every summer but the lady that lived here before was like 90. Highly doubt it has ever been cleaned.

grymix_

2 points

2 months ago

it’s kinda like how some people are able to live to 87 while smoking for the last 60 years. just a chance but can be avoided.

freakksho

1 points

2 months ago

We do it as part of our maintenance package.

If that unit lasted 30 years she was probably taking care of it

eblackham

1 points

2 months ago

She's kind of an energy sucker so I'm running it until it dies then will just get a more efficient unit.

kdaug

11 points

2 months ago

kdaug

11 points

2 months ago

Typically there's a floater relay in the drainpan that will shut th AC off if it gets too full. You'll know quick when the AC doesn't come on, but it beats water coming through your ceiling.

You can get bleach/chlorine tablets at Lowes or Home Depot, and you drop one of those in your drainpan every spring to keep your lines clean.

(This is the unit inside your attic, not the one outside)

Same as a cold beer on a hot day, the AC forms condensation on its outside. That water has to go somewhere. Normally that's a PVC line leading to outside the house, but if that line's clogged and your relay is broken, that water's coming down in your bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, wherever.

imakenosensetopeople

6 points

2 months ago

Unit in the attic? Don’t you put them outside?

kdaug

3 points

2 months ago*

kdaug

3 points

2 months ago*

2 parts , mate. One on the outside that dumps heat, one in the attic that does the chilling (and dumps down cold air)

ETA: And water

freakksho

2 points

2 months ago

The condenser goes outside. That’s the big thing with the fan.

Your air handler/furnace goes in a controlled climate space, either an attic, crawl space or closet.

freakksho

1 points

2 months ago

You should have two float switches installed if you’re air handler is in your attic/above anything in your home.

One in-line in your primary drain line like you’ve described.

The other switch goes into the pan under your air handler as a back up safety. If the unit does not go out on the primary switch it will go off as the pan starts to fill up.

freakksho

2 points

2 months ago

I work in HVAC and we suggest flushing your drain lines twice a year. Once before the hot season and once at the end.

If you live in a super humid climate maybe a third time a year if you’re running the AC consistently.

You can also pour a cup of apple cider vinegar in the drains to help keep it clear.

DO NOT USE BLEACH LIKE SOME PEOPLE SUGGEST, this can cause problems for your coil and drains.

Pushmonk

1 points

2 months ago

It makes a little sense if you use window units that are prone to mold. I had to put a little bleach in mine, but it also didn't drain completely properly.

bloonail

123 points

2 months ago

bloonail

123 points

2 months ago

I've done nothing with my air-conditioner other than mow around it for 23 years. I don't even know how to turn it on and off. It seems fine.

ametad13

18 points

2 months ago*

This would be inside. The evaporator coils sit on top of or just above the furnace and it has a condensate line for drainage, most likely PVC or cpvc. This line can get debris in it and clog up leading to water build up and a leak. If the people who installed the system are kind, then there will be a Tee fitting near the start of it that you can use to pour something like vinegar into to clean it out. If not then you'll probably have to open the coils and pour the vinegar into the line from there.

Edit: evaporator coils not condenser. Been a while since I worked in HVAC got my terminology mixed up.

Sethmeisterg

6 points

2 months ago

Isn't it the evaporator inside near the furnace not the condenser?

rexmaster2

5 points

2 months ago

My condenser is located outside, while my furnace is in the attic. I was told to hose down the condenser every month to keep it clean.

ametad13

2 points

2 months ago

I meant the evaporator is inside. Been years since I worked in HVAC, got my terminology mixed up. Hosing the condenser down once a month is some easy preventative maintenance. Many don't really need it manually hosed down at all. While we also used to service some cause they would get so clogged up with cottonwood that it would stop all air flow. Just one of those things where you probably can get away with not doing it manually, and just letting rain mostly take care of it, but doing it is an easy way to not find out if yours will get too clogged up to function.

ametad13

1 points

2 months ago

Yea you're right. Been years since I worked in HVAC got my terminology mixed up

Sethmeisterg

1 points

2 months ago

No problem at all!

DFLOYD70

1 points

2 months ago

I have to do mine every couple of months or it gets backed up and my ac turns off. It’s kind of a pain, but I just deal with it. I have a smaller piece of hose that I put on the end of my hose and this smaller piece has an attachment to turn the water flow off or on. I normally just shove it in the pipe, and crank it on till it is running outside.

freakksho

1 points

2 months ago

A dehumidifier or UV light would probably help with that.

DFLOYD70

1 points

2 months ago

Thank you. I have a uv light. Not sure why it seems like it does nothing. And of course they want $250 to replace it. I need to figure out how to replace it myself I guess.

Philks_85

68 points

2 months ago

Also clean your filters inside the air-conditioning unit itself. They build up dust and dirt over time and can be bad for asthma sufferers as well as causing sore throats and what not.

halpnousernames

44 points

2 months ago

Qualified HVAC tech.

Yes, clean filters. Actually important.

I've never heard of anyone flushing drains once a month, or at all unless they have a blockage...

puckit

4 points

2 months ago

puckit

4 points

2 months ago

Do you mean the furnace filter that gets replaced every few months?

halpnousernames

6 points

2 months ago

No, the air conditioning filter.

No idea about furnaces, I live in Australia.

MadameTree

8 points

2 months ago

Dumb question, is this the filter in the furnace in your basement or is there a filter in the outside AC unit? I change my furnace filter every 2 months but never touched the outside AC and don't know how

PogoArrow

2 points

2 months ago

If you have the same forced air system for both heating and cooling then it would be the same filter for both. The outside unit is just a condenser and circulates the cooling to the blower.

Our house has 5 filters - 4 on ceiling vent intakes on our 2nd floor and 1 on the intake from outdoors. We were in a rental for a month before this house that had one filter for both the indoor circulation and outdoor intake.

Philks_85

0 points

2 months ago

No idea about the furnace I live in Australia, I don't even have a second floor never mind a basement haha. I have a reverse cycle unit that heats and cools the entire house. I'll be honest I get it professionally maintained once or twice a year so I don't touch it. However I have lived in houses with single wall mounted units and they have a filter on the front, open the door remove and clean. You probably still want a proper clean once a year maybe but that's what I do with that type.

DrRoundstone

59 points

2 months ago

How does one do this?

mahmoudhanine9t7

28 points

2 months ago

Ah, the age-old question of how to keep your AC drain clear - almost as confusing as trying to figure out which Kardashian is which.

4mellowjello

11 points

2 months ago

I think you’re supposed to pour bleach down it

Fourhand

38 points

2 months ago

Use vinegar, bleach is hella corosive to metal, in some AC units like mine pouring it in the place thats easy to open (and therefore the one that most people would open) that bleach will flow past metal and rust it. Bleach is effective but only use it if you are 100% sure its going to a place where its not interacting with metal.

4mellowjello

8 points

2 months ago

This is good advice, thanks for mentioning. I believe my condensation drains are all PVC though

Edit: spelling

timeforanewone1

9 points

2 months ago

HVAC guy here. It's not the condensation lines that will rust, but the coil which sits in your drain pain. The coils hold in high pressures of refrigerant, and it will find even the smallest hole to leak from. Even a small leak can ruin a newer system, as most refrigerants are blends that can leak out independently.

Fourhand

2 points

2 months ago

My safety float is where I have to put it in if I don’t want to grab tools, it goes to the drain pan, the bottom of my interior coils also sit in the pan. I didnt know this until I sent a scope up the pipe one day after a particularly stubborn clog. The good thing is vinegar removes rust too.

bdbdbokbuck

2 points

2 months ago

This is the way . First of each month I use a measuring cup to pour one cup of bleach into the drain line. It’s a pvc pipe with a cap located near the slot where the filter goes. I keep a gallon of bleach and the cup in the little closet that houses the unit. At the same time I replace the filter. In the spring I have a technician do a cleaning and check up on the A/C and likewise in the fall for the heating system. My unit is well over ten years old and in excellent condition.

jonnynoine

2 points

2 months ago

I just bring my water hose to the roof and flush the line.

Brian_E1971

2 points

2 months ago

I just pound on my acoil while the fan is running and it loosens things up. Results will definitely vary

replus

2 points

2 months ago*

There's a curious PVC pipe sticking out of the A/C unit, likely with a cap on it -- pour a cup of white vinegar down it every few months to reduce bacteria and algae.

Outside, there's another PVC pipe; it's where everything drains out of. Once a year (or as needed,) attach a wet vac and run it until the hose stops bouncing. Make sure you're sucking and not blowing.

I think this is mainly for tropical and/or high humidity applications. For the most part, it's for removing algae growth. If you don't live anyplace particularly hot or humid, and your A/C has been problem-free for years, then it's probably unnecessary.

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21 points

2 months ago

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21 points

2 months ago

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gr8daynenyg

6 points

2 months ago

Same what do we do

Turbulent-Pea-8826

3 points

2 months ago

You are changing your filters right?

txpharmer13

4 points

2 months ago

My A/C guy uses some type of compressed air and sprays it out. But yes. At least use vinegar.

rypher

23 points

2 months ago

rypher

23 points

2 months ago

Ok I just dumped a bottle of vinegar in the floor vent. What do I do now? Is it fixed?

MrBudissy

15 points

2 months ago

Now add potatoes and salt

Atomsteel

12 points

2 months ago

...and baby you got a stew going.

Haiku98

1 points

2 months ago

So that's how they make those yummy crispy things

wumbology34

2 points

2 months ago

Some can last 10 years before they clog especially if the entire drain line is new. Check your P trap at the unit (if it’s gas furnace it may not have a trap) that’s the main culprit for clogs. Also if it drains into a bathroom sink check that trap also.

Activist_Mom06

1 points

2 months ago

I buy AC filters by the dozen and change it on the first of every month. I learned two ways to clean (the slime) out my drain line. Compressed air blown from the inside out works amazing. The other is a shop vac from the outside. You have to make a seal of some sort for the vacuum. Don’t pour bleach. I don’t even like vinegar. All corrosive. It is customary to have your unit serviced every year to be sure it’s not leaking refrigerant, not growing mold in the coils, not clogged, etc. it’s usually less than $150. I cannot for the life of me understand how people live without changing their filters. So GROSS. You are breathing that and making it nearly impossible for your unit to operate properly. And it promotes mold growth in the coils. Yuk! Call and schedule a service asap and watch what they do!

Medical_Commission71

1 points

2 months ago

Yes. We got a mega leak right under ours and it traveled to a wall in another room. The roof partially fell in because of the water damage

locksmack

28 points

2 months ago

LPT: not everyone lives in the northern hemisphere.

Eastrous_Ruderalis

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah for half the planet it's getting into autumn

M4NOOB

2 points

2 months ago

M4NOOB

2 points

2 months ago

PSA: Not many people outside of the US have AC (besides businesses)

locksmack

1 points

2 months ago

Why are you providing that PSA in response to my comment?

M4NOOB

3 points

2 months ago

M4NOOB

3 points

2 months ago

To add to it for all the Americans here with their r/USdefaultism

locksmack

1 points

2 months ago

Cool cool cool. My mind immediately assumed you were from the US and were thinking that Europe was in the southern hemisphere. 😂

Superspicyfood

0 points

2 months ago

You mean the top half of the USA?

mcdermg81

18 points

2 months ago

The Southern hemisphere disagrees...

CPTDisgruntled

7 points

2 months ago

Minnesotan wandering in here to laugh bitterly

Rincewend

7 points

2 months ago

I got tired of cleaning mine out and the unit is in the attic so it's a freaking mess if it clogs. I went out to my shop and grabbed a couple of scrap pieces of window screen, wadded it up into two balls, and stuffed one in each end of the drain line. No more clogs.

Averen

3 points

2 months ago

Averen

3 points

2 months ago

Monthly is a bit much but can’t hurt

covers33

4 points

2 months ago

We're in Florida, so our AC runs about 10 months of the year. Our condensate drain line is 1.06" O.D. PVC pipe. We have a small shop vac with a hose that fits neatly over the PVC pipe. Once a month, I hook up the shop vac and suck out the drain line for 10 minutes.

The only time we've had an AC failure was when a service tech left the cap off the clean out tee and the vacuum couldn't clean the first 18 inches of the drain line. The tech put chemicals in the tee, which obviously didn't get to the part of the drain line upstream from the clean out. Once I replaced the cap and vacuumed the drain, all was well.

Tldr: Skip the chemicals, use a shop vac to keep your condensate drain line clear.

Activist_Mom06

2 points

2 months ago

This right here. FL as well

lookitspete

2 points

2 months ago

Won't it just suck air if there's no clog?

covers33

1 points

2 months ago

Yes, sucking air and water at high speed through the condensate line is exactly the goal of using the wet/dry vac.

PogoArrow

1 points

2 months ago

My drain comes out from the attic, I'm sticking with vinegar :) I need to climb into the attic to replace the filter anyway

softfern

15 points

2 months ago

It literally snowed yesterday... It aint anywhere near air conditioner weather yet.

BuffaloInCahoots

3 points

2 months ago

Same here. Woke up to a fresh dusting of snow.

britrobe

7 points

2 months ago

It was 90 degrees at my house yesterday

BuffaloInCahoots

1 points

2 months ago

Snowing right now.

JUYED-AWK-YACC

1 points

2 months ago

Must suck.

BuffaloInCahoots

2 points

2 months ago

Nah it’s fine. I didn’t move here for tropical beaches and hot weather. Bad winters keep people away and my small town small.

Activist_Mom06

1 points

2 months ago

Yep. Record high 91F today

RojoRugger

1 points

2 months ago

Can confirm over here as well. I live in Californian - when it's not raining it's cold AF still.

Anachron101

7 points

2 months ago

Thanks for the reminder. Germany has been getting hotter and hotter and I think this year I will finally buy an AC to cool the bedroom during the hellish months of summer

StacheyMcStacheFace

9 points

2 months ago

Life pro tip: There’s a Southern Hemisphere. It’s getting cooler.

Merman_Pops

3 points

2 months ago

They sell AC drain line cleaner tablets that help keep the drain line clear for awhile.

Gargomon251

2 points

2 months ago

I don't think my air conditioner even has a condensation drain line but I clean the filter/screen occasionally

andyman171

1 points

2 months ago

It def has some way of removing condensation

Edwardtucker2019

2 points

2 months ago

Definitely don't need to do it every month. Do check your filter every few months if your unit is running a lot. Flushing the line every 4 months is more than enough.

mostlygray

2 points

2 months ago

For sure check the drain line. It depends on how yours is set up. Mine runs into a standpipe that's open to the air at the top. If the line were to plug, it will overflow near a floor drain anyway so that's not a big deal.

For me, it's air flow. If your air handler is in your basement utility room it's icing that's going to get you. You need air flow and a quality air filter that allows enough air to move across the coils.

Here's what happens. The filter gets plugged. Because it's plugged, the system can't flow enough air to keep the coils dry and evaporation stops. The coils keep getting colder but the cold air isn't going anywhere so ice starts building up on the coils. The A/C is almost constantly running at this point but not cooling. So some jagweed turns down the A/C even more until the system gets stuck on. If it does stop, it short cycles back on again right away and keeps trying to cool down the room. Now you have a huge block of ice inside the air handler and basically zero cooling.

Now, you need to pull the filter and turn off the A/C for a few hours. Let the house warm up and let all that water drip melt, drip off, and dry out. If you can short it to keep the blower going while it melts, that would be nice but the whole house fan typically runs at low speed.

During this time, run over to the hardware store and buy a decent dehumidifier and just run the drain line from that straight into a floor drain so you don't have to worry about emptying the pan. Set it to 50% and leave it. They aren't expensive and they last for years.

Now make sure that you change your filter regularly and don't try to set your house to 65F. A regular cooling system won't be able to keep up and you'll get icing again. 74F is perfectly fine. You won't die and it'll feel a hell of a lot cooler than the 90F that it is outside.

Oohbunnies

2 points

2 months ago

I'm in Scotland. What's an air conditioner? I know what the words mean, I've just never seen them used together before now.

Murph934

2 points

2 months ago

Get yourself a condensate overflow alarm, too. Especially if the system is in the attic.

Activist_Mom06

1 points

2 months ago

Yes. Mine have an overflow switch that shuts the unit down if it floats up from water backing up in the pan. Called a Float Switch.

RPFM

2 points

2 months ago

RPFM

2 points

2 months ago

"Getting warm again" - You're freaking lucky if that's the case for you.

gorwraith

3 points

2 months ago

I failed to fo this for several years once. It cost several hundred dollars to fix and would have only have taken a minute or two every year. Well worth the time.

Fresh_Pomelo8842

-1 points

2 months ago

what air conditioners?? don't have any

Ishidan01

0 points

2 months ago*

NOT bleach! Fuck me dead. You're the kind of people that wash your car with Dawn too, cause you don't believe the specialty aisle full of Meguiars and Turtle Wax knows its job, aintcha.

They sell things just for this.

The pros will use stronger stuff than this but for your average homeowner, ac pan slime killing tablets and ac fin cleaner.

Wots that? You wanna know what the pros use?

Righty on, bulk concentrate of fin cleaner and time release algae kill pills

drillgorg

1 points

2 months ago

Mine has a pump to move the condensate up to the ceiling so it can travel over to a drain. I live in fear that the pump will fail and the AC will just keep pumping out water, flood my basement, and ruin my engineered hardwood.

andyman171

1 points

2 months ago

Get a floatswitch for your pan.

iac12345

1 points

2 months ago

Is this a thing for all HVAC units? We have a combo AC / furnace unit, but it’s on the roof. We’ve lived here 10 years and never checked this???

GodspeakerVortka

1 points

2 months ago

Wish I knew about this a few years ago! Great tip and those who have never done it, you really should! It’ll save you a headache when it all gets backed up.

thebipeds

1 points

2 months ago

This is probably good advise.

I’m wondering if anyone actually had a parent teach them this?

Skymimi

1 points

2 months ago

Unit is at least 15 years old. Never had a problem. Now that I know this, I bet the bitch clogs up. Thanks, dude.

LetDarwinDoHisThing

1 points

2 months ago

we don't mean you San Francisco, because it's fucking cold still

IanJaegs

1 points

2 months ago

My what and the what now?

dpittnet

1 points

2 months ago

Just get your spring/fall maintenance and you’ll be fine

MaMakossa

1 points

2 months ago

Ah, the joys of renting! U____U

alfis329

1 points

2 months ago

Lol what. We just had a snowstorm where I’m at yesterday

IntelligentWeight103

1 points

2 months ago

Thanks for the reminder!

Bees_to_the_wall

1 points

2 months ago

Just grab your trusty Shop Vac and insert the outside drain in it briefly, blocking the rest of the opening with your hand. It'll clear out any spider web or other insect buildup that could clog it up and cause water buildup inside the unit and drip down your wall. It's unlikely but you never know.

My installer told me to do it at least once a year. I do it whenever I have the vacuum outside for the cars or whatever.

henlohowdy

1 points

2 months ago

Who even owns a house? Just call maintenance or your landlord, ain't my problem gotta go to work!

Kangabolic

1 points

2 months ago

Do you have a how to?

AidenArcadia

1 points

2 months ago

Laughs in Coloradan. I got 2 inches of snow last night.

Bonbonnibles

1 points

2 months ago

But it's like 43° F at my house. What is this "warm" of which you speak?

FrungyLeague

1 points

2 months ago

How hard would it be for people to include a link showing us how to do this? M

HuffleMcSnufflePuff

1 points

2 months ago

Literally had to do this a few hours ago. It’s turning into a bi-monthly occurrence for some reason.

Tycam34

1 points

2 months ago

It snowed twice this week in Oregon

SmellyMcPhearson

1 points

2 months ago

Bold of you to assume I know what this means.

cybeaux

1 points

2 months ago

Somebody left a hose running… In the south, that’s what condensation drain lines look like.

Moved to the south a few years ago, condensation drain line’s P trap was clogged and overflowed into a dirty clothes bin.

Cleaned trap with a wet/dry vac.

PM_ME_MAS_ORO

1 points

2 months ago

Professional in the industry here. Having to clean out a drain once a month is nonsense. Although it should get checked every season for sure. If your drain clogs that often something else is very much the problem. Like some type of indoor environment problem.

DingusTaargus

1 points

2 months ago

You worry about your own drain line, buddy.

hoverton

1 points

2 months ago

Had ours at work get clogged years ago. Unit was in a closet and the platform it was mounted to was standing water. Mine at home got clogged last year. Had water start soaking the ceiling in the bathroom. The main drain line out of the unit was clogged and the drain on the overflow pan had what was probably dirt dauber nests in it. Blasted out both with a water hose from outside. Only thing I could think of in the middle of the night.

Bumbalard

1 points

2 months ago

Is this a newer problem for newer systems? Never in my life has this ever been something that needed doing.

Drain pan? Like, my hot water heater has a drain pan, but the AC compressor and stuff is outside and that shit just drains on to the ground.

glkwO

1 points

2 months ago

glkwO

1 points

2 months ago

Change your furnace filters.

sgtdisturbed47

1 points

2 months ago

I still have snow in my yard

Worker11811Georgy

1 points

2 months ago

Wow. People can actually afford air conditioners. I can’t even imagine owning one

panconquesofrito

1 points

2 months ago

I do this with 4 cups of vinegar followed by 4 cups of warm water once a quarter.

wRojtheoriginal

1 points

2 months ago

Reading this when there’s a two day snowstorm going on