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SoInappropriat3

2.3k points

6 days ago

Fuckin’ around but not finding out.

__WanderLust_

874 points

6 days ago

Oh he'll find out when life bitchslaps him hard.

CatgoesM00

578 points

6 days ago*

CatgoesM00

578 points

6 days ago*

Man, I just had a really good debate with someone on how physically punishing your kids is wrong…. now I’m questioning everything. This boy might need a good spanking and some medication possibly

gysiguy

286 points

6 days ago

gysiguy

286 points

6 days ago

Right? I thought myself to be on the side of not using violence on your kids, but damn, this kid needs a good hard smack to come to his senses. The mother's tenderness and attempt to embrace and restrain, while it comes from good intentions, will only reenforce this kind of behavior. The kid obviously has no sense of punishment and that's probably due to her inability to be firm. It is possible to be firm without using physical punishment but it would have had to happen much earlier and it's probably too late to take that approach with this child.

It's a broader problem in our culture today, people are taking longer and longer to grow out of adolescence and it's due to being coddled for far too long.

CatgoesM00

131 points

6 days ago*

CatgoesM00

131 points

6 days ago*

Yah totally, what ever the case. That family doesn’t deserve any of that nonsense.

I grew up with an abusive brother and it’s wild how we culturally just expect all this nonsense. His behavior still affects me today. So I got shell shock when I saw this video. my heart goes out for this family. Damn!

This definitely makes me not to want to have kids

paperwasp3

83 points

6 days ago

Jacob needs to be assessed by professionals immediately. His family shouldn't have to live through this.

[deleted]

64 points

6 days ago

[deleted]

64 points

6 days ago

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RainbowHippotigris

69 points

6 days ago

Same here. My stepsister is 3 years older than me and growing up she broke my arm twice, cracked my head open once, pushed me out of a moving car, and beat the shit out of me regularly. This kid needs locked up in a juvenile behavioral treatment center until he listens and stops attacking his mom and brother.

FairPropaganda

14 points

6 days ago

Has she ever mentioned her behavior now that y'all are older, or do you just no longer have contact? Sorry you experienced that.

4-Run-Yoda

34 points

6 days ago

Same here, my mother and I are both disabled and after my father passed away my brother said he was the alpha of the house now and he would put his hands on us and use severe mental abuse towards my mother and I it got so bad my mother had a nervous breakdown had to be hospitalized for a few weeks and during that time we got a restraining order against him and he still tries to mess with us.

ChapolinColoradoNZ

36 points

6 days ago

I got kids and we do our best to teach them not to get aggressive but also to not back down if they are the victim. My boy threw a slap to my face once when he was angry. I get angry with many things they do wrong but that day I had a poker face on and asked him to calm down. I sat him down by holding on his shoulders and making him sit, then told him to breathe. About 5 minutes after that (and some initial struggle to stay seated) he finally calmed down and we talked about what led to his decision to slap me. I tried to make him understand that hitting is the last resort, it's something you do when you ran out of options and so I explained how many other way he/we could have handled this. Believe me, my gut instinct was to slap back and make him feel the pain he made me feel (that's how I was brought up) but I knew he wasn't in control in that moment and felt that helping him understand his emotions was the best path forward. I'm not going to sit here and say I never slap them when things get out of hand. I'm only human and I wish everything people say about kids would work at home but sometimes they don't.

The kid in the video though I believe has never faced consequences for previous misbehaviour events and so things escalated to a level the parents themselves weren't prepared to handle (if they are his parents that is). He should have heard no before and be taught to. understand what that means. Parenting requires both authority and friendship and they're mutually dependant. Stuff have limits and those limits start at home. That's just mho though as a parent. =)

TyrantDragon19

28 points

6 days ago

Did a bit of research, the guy was either the dad, or a cousin. And the girl was obviously the mom for 1. For 2. However, you are a great dad. For 3. I have the same idea as you, but I believe that this situation should’ve ended with a grounding and a very swift leg and arm lock instead of carrying on for so long. I’m only speaking as an older cousin, but one of my younger cousins (previously) had very extreme anger issues and was attacking his mother one day when they came over. I walked over to him and gave him a warning (3 actually) one to calm down or I would pull him away another for him not to hit me or I would restrain him. And one more saying exactly “if you attempt to hit me again I will not wait to restrain you” in the end he tried to (probably) kill me with a plastic knife to the stomach. But I grabbed his shirt and put him in a police lock (hands behind the back and legs pinned down by constant pressure) I still feel bad, but it was a turning point for him and his life. I believe the kid in the video needed the same

Lil-lee-na

65 points

6 days ago

Trust me, this child’s behavior is not normal. This isn’t just an undisciplined, poorly behaved child. This kid clearly has some sort of serious disorder, and physically disciplining this child or any type of run if the mill “discipline” is not going to solve it. This child needs professional help and quick.

KaelAltreul

8 points

6 days ago

Full agree. This is a kid with legitimate problem. His mom(?) did a good job trying to calm him down. I've seen kids that are just little shits and it's different.

Dm-me-a-gyro

26 points

6 days ago

Soooooo this kind of behavior has an escalation pattern that goes to more severe violence and self injurious behavior. The woman has obviously received some coaching on her behavioral intervention. The kid is just fucking huge for her.

AndrewEpidemic

18 points

6 days ago

I agree if the child is mentally healthy however this behavior may be the result of oppositional defiant disorder, that may be why they're refusing to use any violence against him, it'll just reinforce the cycle and make him more angry.

dabadeedee

37 points

6 days ago

It’s complicated. Kids need everything. They need a teacher, a guide, a friend, a loving parent, and sometimes yeah they need someone to forcefully take action.

Super common example: if your kid is about to run across a parking lot and you rapidly grab their arm and lift them up.. that’s still “getting physical”, but it’s the type of thing that you need to do as a parent.

Consequences and boundaries are good.

Lashing out in anger, being sadistic, being unreasonably cruel, neglectful, etc is bad.

With all this said.. if my kid was swinging my at me or his Mom, he’s getting stopped one way or another. If talking doesn’t work, and restraining him doesn’t work, then maybe being tossed across the room and slapped a couple of times will work.

I have never hit my kid but I’ve always told myself, if it came to serious physical safety or violence, then all bets are off. You do what you have to without crossing the line.

onefst250r

15 points

6 days ago

This kid needs the older brother to do the "stop hitting yourself!"

Butthole__Pleasures

3 points

6 days ago

They really needed to restrain him with more force. That was so frustrating that they kept letting this little fatass keep breaking loose so easily when he clearly wasn't all that strong.

stifferthanstiffler

19 points

6 days ago

Just throw this one away, she looks young enough to make a new one.

Alpah-Woodsz

6 points

6 days ago

I'm Irish if I acted like that (which I did) my ma would kick the shit out of me if my brothers and sisters didn't get there first. I am very great full for that now it thought me respect. my nieces and nephews walk around like they own the gaf. I'm like can I just give a little slap and it's like no you can't hit kids it's stupid. I'm not gonna beat kids but there are limbs that if squeezed will make u think twice.

stoopidmothafunka

5 points

6 days ago

You don't beat your children, but one good hard smack upside the head from someone with some size would shut this kid up for long enough to try reasoning again. He just has no fear of any kind of repercussions, so you show him the physical ramifications of his actions and then give him the option to be reasoned with. He can't be swinging on people and not get hit, he's gonna end up in jail.

smellybathroom3070

8 points

6 days ago

Nope, personally, this is the brothers job right here, he’s already tryna help, but as a 15 year old brother to two, genuinely i’d punch him if he were acting this way.

succulentwhisperer

2 points

6 days ago

Spanking shouldn't be your go-to punishment, but your kids need to know it's a tool in the kit bag.

mushroommilitia

3 points

6 days ago

Veggies for months would be the proper medicine then you could just sit on the little focker

Gloomy_Bandicoot_848

3 points

6 days ago

Pain is the great equalizer…once he feels it

EntropyFighter

3 points

6 days ago

You're not wrong but what do you do to a kid after you've already fucked him up as parents? Once he's decided you are the problem (even if he's not wrong) it's not like the parents are going to give up and let him, what, rule the roost? It's already an issue. At this point, you aren't dealing with the primary condition. All you want is for him to not fuck his life up in public.

Basically the entire time I was waiting for somebody to put this kid in a rear naked choke. Nothing makes you feel more harmless than being unable to deal with somebody who is climbing all over your body once you're knocked down. All it would take is one serious "I will choke you until you die" maneuver and he'll either learn it or submit to it.

Learning it wouldn't be the worst thing. It would mean he's liable to be molded by a jiu jitsu coach or a wrestling coach.

joemullermd

3 points

6 days ago

He needs to be picked up and physically removed from the situation and confined until he calms down. He needs to understand that there will always be someone bigger than him somewhere capable of removing him from these situations. His parents are the first and kindest, the ones you deal with the rest of your life won't be so nice.

Gruphius

3 points

6 days ago

Gruphius

3 points

6 days ago

When I physically attacked my father he would just grab me, push me to the floor with my arm behind my back and tell me to never do that again. I did that only like 3 times and it never went on longer than like a minute...

oztikS

78 points

6 days ago

oztikS

78 points

6 days ago

I remember the 80’s… ah, good times.

mouseat9

81 points

6 days ago

mouseat9

81 points

6 days ago

The 80’s and 90’s would have cured this child very quickly.

tn-dave

4 points

6 days ago

tn-dave

4 points

6 days ago

My two little league coaches in 1977 were both Vietnam Veterans…lol

ForgetfulFrolicker

40 points

6 days ago*

People say this shit but don’t realize some kids are just born wrong and the parents have little (if any) recourse.

There’s an HBO documentary about it called “A Dangerous Son”. It’s very interesting, follows a few families around who have kids with severe behavioral problems.

Louis Theroux also did a special about kids with autism and it touches on the subject.

VW_wanker

5 points

6 days ago

Real life Cartman

Love_God551

134 points

6 days ago

Love_God551

134 points

6 days ago

Lots of enabling happening here

texansfan

70 points

6 days ago

texansfan

70 points

6 days ago

I’m a new dad, I’m watching this and trying to figure out how I would approach this situation. Assuming you had to start right here, what would you do differently?

Khanman5

147 points

6 days ago*

Khanman5

147 points

6 days ago*

Well it's hard to just start here.

I asked my better half(who is finishing her doctorate in teaching with animal assisted interventions) how she would react to this and basically it boiled down to the following.

1) if her students acted this way, you would immediately wrap them up and take them to the ground until they calm down. Think bear hug. She had to do this with several students before.

2) once he's calmed down, ask them how they thought this would go and try and get them to start a conversation on what they think they should have done vs what they did.

According to her, a lot of kids like this lack any good strategies or coping mechanisms to handle their emotional outbursts. And hitting them only encourages them to internalize it(basically putting off the inevitable explosion).

Of course(and this is my note here) sometimes your kid rolled a nat 1 during character creation and got the 'psychopath' trait. And if that's the case you are kinda fucked no matter what.

dazzle_dee_daisyray

38 points

6 days ago

This is a great comment. I grew up with my little brother having physical outbursts like this. He once chased my sisters and mom around the house with knives stabbing them through doors until we had to finally call the cops and my uncle was able to help us out of the house. He was also the baby of the family, and he did not get his ass whooped growing up. Not that it would have helped. I dont think it would have. But he is a completely different person now. And he is actually really pleasant to be around as an adult. I seriously worried for him and still do, but not as much anymore. I think certain situations in life humbled him, realizing that anger and frustration are not going to get you what you want. But i dont know exactly how or when he came to grow out of that behavior, though.

blgbird

20 points

6 days ago*

blgbird

20 points

6 days ago*

Same experience with my brother, for my brother it was mostly mishandled mental illness. My father refused to get him help and he was punished by everything around him, his mental health issues didn't really fit with the rigidity of childhood. As he grew up and had a little more autonomy to figure out how to surround himself with things that worked with him, he did much better. Would have done much better if those around him worked with his issues early on but growing up back then, it didn't work that way, especially with the way my father and teachers dealt with it. I think the only thing that kept him from tipping over is my mom's dogged support for him.

I also had a family friend who was insanely violent from a young age, to the point that all the kids in the family didn't want to visit that family. He ended up with a lot of issues through out his life, until he died in a homeless shelter. You just never know how these things play out, because so many variables can cause the issue.

dassle

24 points

6 days ago

dassle

24 points

6 days ago

This is the only answer that starts to approach a solution.

The "wrap up" technique is the safest for everyone IF the "wrapper" is sufficiently larger and stronger. The mother might not be. The (older brother) probably is, but he has no idea what to do and is probably scared of hurting him. It's also a messed up situation to put an older sibbling in.

You're maybe half-right about the other coping strategies: he may or may not know of them, but talking and self emotional regulation are not easy and dont come naturally for everyone unless they are both taught AND are the only option that gets results.

Violence can be a very strong self-reinforcing behavior. It can give a sense of immediate gratification (release of emotional energy, sense of power, and effect on others). So it might not be the "only" strategy this kid knows, but it might just be his favorite or the one that he defaults to when the others fail or feel too hard.

The "solution" here if there is one, requires 2 parts: 1) make sure violence NEVER works for him (something like the "wrap up" technique ideally) but then some follow throughout with some very unpleasant consequences that are the OPPOSITE of what he was trying to get from the initial conflict. 2) whenever he uses a skill instead of violence or whenever he listens to an instruction or limit on the first time, he get a very positive reinforcement.

His conscious mind, as well as his nervous system, needs to get the message over and over that violence gets him nothing but negative consequences, and using healthy skills and compliance and respect gets him everything.

The book "1-2-3 Magic" isn't "perfect" or complete in my opinion, but it is a good place to start as it lays out some key concepts in a way that pretty much anyone with at least an average IQ could understand.

davesonett

3 points

6 days ago

Yes

Draken_961

21 points

6 days ago

We had a case where a 13 year old did similar outbursts with the family but would be much more physically abusive to his parents and would destroy the house. Kid was on medications but they were not sufficient to control his outbursts.

Eventually he had an outburst in school with another student who gave him an ass whooping. Guess what? The kid has not laid hands on his parents or anyone else since then and he openly admits is because he doesn’t want to get beat up again and he is 17 years now. He still have outbursts and has breakdowns but does not get violent against others anymore because that ass whooping he got. He said he didn’t realize he was hurting his parents and didn’t know what they had to put up with until he experienced it himself.

Sometimes corporal punishment and stricter parenting is the answer. Hugs and kisses won’t always work.

Khanman5

10 points

6 days ago

Khanman5

10 points

6 days ago

thats what we call an outlier case.

more often than not, physical abuse, ESPESCIALLY from parents, is a good way to send that kid down the path of anxious attachment and lifelong depression.

ToughProgrammer

52 points

6 days ago

first off, kids don't act like this 99.99% of the time

this kid has legitimate problems

dplath

37 points

6 days ago

dplath

37 points

6 days ago

Yea, people in here thinking a spanking will fix this kid are morons. He has significant psychological issues.

getfree623

7 points

6 days ago

This should be the top comment.

Kind_Pomegranate4877

7 points

6 days ago

Also you’re teaching a kid who’s getting physically violent with others that the best way to face consequences for his actions is to be hit? Counter productive. It’s normalizing putting your hands on people to get what you want. He needs to be immediately removed from the situation and taught coping skills to calm himself down.

ScarletDarkstar

30 points

6 days ago

Understand that of your child starts acting out anywhere near this badly, they need an assessment and assistance.

This didn't start with this video.

TrumpsPissSoakedWig

9 points

6 days ago

Yeah, there's something wrong with him. It's certainly possible that he could be dealing with his own abuse, that he may be receiving, or have received somewhere else, either sexual, physical. Or it could be he's dealing with trauma/death, or it even could be plain ol' mental illness, and unspecified anger with outbursts, or perhaps, he's just an asshole or socio/psychopath, but I'm just speculating, like an armchair psychoanalytic moron, and with zero information besides the video, but regardless, no matter what is bothering him, he needs professional help to figure out how to deal with it before he ends up in jail.

AngriestPacifist

3 points

6 days ago

Again, pure speculation, and she's doing the right things in the moment with staying calm and trying to help the kid process through his emotions, but I've seen kids act out like this to get attention. He's the focus as long as he does this, and if he's neglected otherwise, it's a common strategy to do things like this to get that attention.

Again, I'm just some asshole on the internet and have no idea what's going on with this whole families' tragedy with this kid.

jgo3

41 points

6 days ago

jgo3

41 points

6 days ago

Hitting is not for anger. It is not for revenge. It is not for solace. Not for me, and not for kids. But my rule is that even if I'm trying to avoid a power struggle, attempts to control me with violence will be met with unquestionably superior violence. That shit does not fly.

BookDev0urer

66 points

6 days ago

Throw hands and put his fat ass on a diet

theonephaze23

20 points

6 days ago

The correct answer right here.

Youngmanandthelake

5 points

6 days ago

Knowing nothing about this situation, approach this sort of thing with a little compassion. I am a foster parent with kids in my home who came from wildly abusive homes. I have had to call cops, put an 11 year old into involuntary psych wards, and for a period of years with my oldest son, physically restrain him because of damage he did to siblings and our home. There are situations you cannot see that contribute to videos like this. Remember the human.

MostDopeKnuckleH3ad

6 points

6 days ago

he needs to fuck around and go on a diet.

80085GiveMeLife

7 points

6 days ago

For real. Someone smack this punk already

skyeisrude

1.9k points

6 days ago

skyeisrude

1.9k points

6 days ago

Walking plan b advertisement right there

DelkioGamingYT

338 points

6 days ago

Trojan appreciates this one

Grimacepug

46 points

6 days ago

I remember when I was 7 years old and don't act like this. It had something to do with sticks, belts, full palm, backhand, and pretty much anything that can turn your ass red, and you'll remember it for a week since every time you sat down, it reminds you of some shit you had or hadn't done like not finishing homework, take out the trash or late for curfew. I sure had easier than this kid. /s

Spacecoasttheghost

31 points

6 days ago

I remember getting my ass beat for not writing neat enough, among other things like that. My dad eventually stopped doing it, because he didn’t like how we reacted to him in fear. But from this I don’t know what the solution is, I don’t think it’s spankings, and talking is not working at this point.

Filosofemme

14 points

6 days ago

If my Pa raised his hand near me, I'd still flinch to this day. Female, 42

Butthole__Pleasures

4 points

6 days ago

That's really sad. That's how abused dogs react.

Strange_Many_4498

70 points

6 days ago

Ya know.. it’s amazing there are still people there that think plan B is the abortion pill and not just something that prevents you from getting pregnant.

ReallyHugeGuy

15 points

6 days ago

I can see the confusion. Technically, taking plan B does prevent a life from touching ground in some cases...

Harper_1482

116 points

6 days ago

Harper_1482

116 points

6 days ago

Whomever added the music is a raging cunt.. hard enough to watch already.

2020GoodYear2Forget

18 points

6 days ago

Vasectomy w/ insurance $200 in 2017

itstanktime

3 points

6 days ago

Mine was free in 2021. USA even.

A_Funky_Flunk

42 points

6 days ago

Why do people have these… things?

ScarletDarkstar

34 points

6 days ago

This is not even remotely average. Something serious is going on here that needs to be addressed.

Diligent-Picture2882

17 points

6 days ago*

We see this constantly in elementary schools now. It's terrifying even onto a personal level. These kids lose complete control of their senses. I have been punched by a boy the same size as this one. Three fast punches to the middle of my face. I finally quit that job.

Vintage_girl123

27 points

6 days ago

Idk, they're crazy..I grew up with a brother like this, that's all the birth control I've ever needed..

SLIMER_Bing_Bing

6 points

6 days ago

Did he turn out okay?

TalkingOrangeTree

7 points

6 days ago

Going up with her brother like this taught me that there’s a lot of generational traumas that I had to process through family therapy. Having my own baby taught me that there were a lot of abusive things that were normalized at my house that should never have happened.

I’m freaking appalled that in all the years of being a parent, they never once thought of a therapy appointment or bought a parenting book.

Unfortunately, he isn’t in the mental space or position to seek help outside of the home, and I really feel like he’ll end up committing suicide.

SLIMER_Bing_Bing

3 points

6 days ago

Thanks for replying. Sorry to hear that.

UnprofessionalGhosts

765 points

6 days ago

Looks like attachment disorder shit which is why the approach is primarily reassurance.

Future-Increase3237

326 points

6 days ago

Attachment reaction disorder. But likely some brain damage or autism. There’s no real antecedent here

shardamakah

106 points

6 days ago

shardamakah

106 points

6 days ago

Dude. My friends little brother was just like this. His mom would be in tears while we awkwardly played Crazy Taxi in the basement and his mom and two older brothers would try Ann calm him down. He is now an engineer at Boeing. Childhood is tough. But people grow up.

Komatoasty

32 points

6 days ago

Thank you for sharing. I don't have much knowledge on childhood behaviour like this but this video really fucking broke my heart. I am glad he grew up to be alright and that his family didn't give up on him.

Abject-Recipe1359

69 points

6 days ago

*Reactive attachment disorder

summynum

26 points

6 days ago

summynum

26 points

6 days ago

*Re-achment Attactive disorder

WhisperDigits

24 points

6 days ago

Retractive Autocratic Destroyer

MiketheImpuner

26 points

6 days ago

You use big words

thecommonmanjb

28 points

6 days ago

Antidisestablishmentarianism

plxelated

9 points

6 days ago

Pneumonoultramicroscopicscilavolcaniosis

thecommonmanjb

4 points

6 days ago

Now you're just making shit up 😉

zyrkseas97

11 points

6 days ago

Yeah this kid is not neurotypical, he’s clearly having an episode.

Spare_Ad1017

14 points

6 days ago

Do you think ignoring it would work?? The constant trying to restrain him with hugs seems like it would be really overwhelming. I really don't know, just curious if anyone has any experience with this. It seems as he gets older he's going to become increasingly dangerous, and impossible to restrain.

Youngmanandthelake

19 points

6 days ago

Restraint, at times like this, is literally a last recourse. Fight or flight is engaged with the kiddo, and they will, eventually, get tired. I've been through children like this a as a foster parent, and adopted two of them. Constant reassurance and validation is very therapeutic over time, as well as medications for impulse control, but there are absolutely situations where nothing "correct" can be done except let it run it's course, and try to use it as teaching moments when the adrenaline is no longer in kiddos body. Speaking from experience, you cannot talk your way out of every situation like this, and talking this thru with kids when they begin to develop the mental capacity to actually understand logic is something we have had to simply wait for as they mature.

ButtPoo32

50 points

6 days ago

ButtPoo32

50 points

6 days ago

My money is on ASD.

idiotic__gamer

45 points

6 days ago

Nah, shit like that would cause overstimulation and the kid wouldn't be able to keep screaming and throwing punches like that. This is definitely a mental disorder, but this is not what autism looks like.

sappercon

56 points

6 days ago

sappercon

56 points

6 days ago

My cousin works at a home for kids with Prader-Willi syndrome. These kids never feel full so they are constantly eating, sometimes until the point of extreme obesity. They also tend to have uncontrollable rage issues. He’s regularly attacked and sometimes even has shit thrown at him. I have no idea what this kids actual condition is but some behavior issues cannot simply be cured by discipline or therapy.

ButtPoo32

41 points

6 days ago

ButtPoo32

41 points

6 days ago

Him screaming and continuing to throw punches kinda points to him being over stimulated and a lot of the time this is what kids on the spectrum look like during an episode. You can also tell by his mom and brothers reaction that this is a pretty regular thing and they are being intentional with how they manage the situation.

Kryptosis

6 points

6 days ago

Which makes the music and title even more disgusting.

Daddy_Calcolan

18 points

6 days ago

You know autism is different for everyone right? When I was younger I had pretty bad meltdowns and the only way for me to calm down was if I was alone, otherwise I don't remember a single time I calmed down with someone in the room watching me. Sure this is anecdotal evidence but just saying this could be ASD. Could also be not, I'm not a psychiatrist just saying not to rule it out

DeadMonkeyHead

15 points

6 days ago

Autism is a very broad diagnosis. It could absolutely be autism. I've worked with meant different asd clients for 8 years.

AliasMT

297 points

6 days ago

AliasMT

297 points

6 days ago

Wait so Cartman was real?

Zeek_Seeks_Gains

29 points

6 days ago

Is*

apextek

12 points

6 days ago

apextek

12 points

6 days ago

every school has at least 1

DigitalCoffee

5 points

6 days ago

This kid makes Cartman look like the Pope.

Thriven

3 points

6 days ago

Thriven

3 points

6 days ago

One of the best southpark episodes was about this

https://youtu.be/r8eqTFi5eYY?t=102

Desperate-Donut656

232 points

6 days ago

Mom better start working out right now. Can you imagine him in a few years? Scary.

slimkt

37 points

6 days ago

slimkt

37 points

6 days ago

That’s what I was thinking. A couple years down the line and no one is gonna be able to restrain him.

sporadicjesus

6 points

6 days ago

He's going to end up in a hospital drugged to calme him down or in prison.

SkengyyGD

120 points

6 days ago

SkengyyGD

120 points

6 days ago

can you turn the video down i cant hear the music

[deleted]

554 points

6 days ago

[deleted]

554 points

6 days ago

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hoping_to_cease

137 points

6 days ago

Similar to me… when I was about 13/14 I was a realllllll bitch. I think I told my mom to shut up and I didn’t even see it coming but she backhanded me and didn’t even say anything else. I don’t remember ever disrespecting her again and it was the only time she ever hit me.

BowsersItchyForeskin

29 points

6 days ago

That's the thing about punishment: If it only happens rarely in your life, and the rest of the time life's good, then the punishment is effective, because it sticks out in your memory. I can count on one hand the times I got a clip over the ear from both of my parents. I remember each and every time because it only happened when I seriously overstepped the line. Kids who are denied this when they overstep turn into the assholes we have as adults more often than not.

DigitalCheezer

128 points

6 days ago

There’s definitely a line between beating and spanking. Of course it won’t work on every kid, but it did for me. My last spanking was when I was 6.

DaftMudkip

19 points

6 days ago

Facts. I got hit MAYBE 3 times as a child

After that I was like “oh hey maybe don’t get in trouble”

Or caught…

AH0LE_

34 points

6 days ago

AH0LE_

34 points

6 days ago

I remember my first spank. And i think I'm better from it

buckzer0

12 points

6 days ago

buckzer0

12 points

6 days ago

My dad slapped my brother once so he (my brother) shot an arrow across the house at my dad. It lodged into the door about 4 foot from his (my dad's) midsection. It was not a cool scene man.

lolimazn

6 points

6 days ago

lolimazn

6 points

6 days ago

How's your brother and dad doing now?

abeesky

3 points

6 days ago

abeesky

3 points

6 days ago

Curious as well

izzerina

362 points

6 days ago

izzerina

362 points

6 days ago

I’m curious to know if he suffers from any social, psychological disorders. If he’s bullied at school etc.

chimpdoctor

216 points

6 days ago

chimpdoctor

216 points

6 days ago

Definitely. I feel sad for him and the family. They are all clearly struggling.

ThomasBay

61 points

6 days ago

ThomasBay

61 points

6 days ago

I feel bad for the family

Throwaway135792460

41 points

6 days ago

Yup, that isn't just a bratty kid. He definitely has a screw loose. I know this because I work on vehicles, and vehicles have many screws, loose and tight.

Mom is a saint. And big brother (?) is dealing with some pile of shit that a kid that age shouldn't have to be worrying.

strongerlynn

49 points

6 days ago

Omg... But yet completely fine when she's says she calling the cops and then he's all "I'm sorry"... I call b.s. My cousin who is actually on the spectrum would keep acting out and didn't care the cops are coming.

pulp_affliction

5 points

6 days ago

I felt for that kid when he said don’t smile. Whoever is recording him thinks it’s funny and is taunting him. It’s egging him on, and it seems like no one is trying to understand why he’s upset. Overall sad.

Old-Instruction3583

3 points

6 days ago

yes, and likely all three.

pandulce4life

3 points

6 days ago

Definitely. Likely some ODD. Family has been trained to restrain him, I recognize the technique. It's very sad.

Aatcoya

59 points

6 days ago

Aatcoya

59 points

6 days ago

Definitely exposure to a form of abuse, the swearing and tendency to violence. Perhaps abusive partner/s that his mother dated. Definitely doesn't realize boundaries and consequences yet, and a very angry, insecure persona. Plus he is indeed a big kid. Mom is too soft which doesn't help. Sadly he is gonna learn the hard way, other kids and adults won't respond as passively as his family does.

I hope this kid straightens out. Wish him and his family the best.

AggravatedAssault122

242 points

6 days ago

Little shit started apologizing immediately once the mom involved consequences(calling the cops)😂 Its almost like he needs to be disciplined🙄

f4gm4n

41 points

6 days ago

f4gm4n

41 points

6 days ago

“Whateve mom, whateve,i do what i want”

strahonsolo

122 points

6 days ago

strahonsolo

122 points

6 days ago

Now imagine that you are this kid's teacher. This kid in class with about 20 other kids, that you are supposed to teach, but spend half of your day fighting him and protecting the other kids from him. Now think about this kid going after your kid in class.

Pay teachers.

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938 points

6 days ago

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938 points

6 days ago

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Ok-Swimming8024

243 points

6 days ago

Most definitely. That would happen exactly 1 time.

DreamArcher

227 points

6 days ago*

Yeah probably not. The kid has some disorder. See how the mom is using only positive feedback and how serious and calm the siblings are. They were instructed to deal with it like this and not by accident.

Edit: Also, the mom raised 2 other children with clearly a lot of self control and 1 monster? Probably not. And she says "we're going to help you get through this" which indicates it's some kind of episode not normal behavior.

MandyJo_1313

61 points

6 days ago

I have to agree with you. My son has Epilepsy and used to take a medication that made him have episodes of rage. He exploded like this on a regular basis until we finally got him off that medication. It’s sad to see so many in the comments jump right to the “this kid needs his ass beat” logic when we clearly have no idea of the context.

Envect

25 points

6 days ago

Envect

25 points

6 days ago

I think it's safe to say that beating children is generally not a solution to anything.

Fuzzybadfeet85

34 points

6 days ago

Looks like this kid struggles immensely with ASD

TartKiwi

34 points

6 days ago

TartKiwi

34 points

6 days ago

Continuing to engage with him physically using half assed, minimal force, while smothering and overstimulating him, was the worst possible way they could have handled this. Even locking him in an empty bedroom until he stopped acting up would have been better. This method they tried did nothing but play towards all his problems. Correction needs to either be active or passive, not both.

Think-Cardiologist36

15 points

6 days ago

I’d be afraid he would just start breaking stuff and or hurt himself in doing so if they locked him in his room. They need to just send him to outward bound

Rocket_Emojis

194 points

6 days ago

The kid needs a dad

PROTOTYPE_XCIX

283 points

6 days ago

A God-fearing Mexican Mom is also a viable option.

Dano_cos

51 points

6 days ago

Dano_cos

51 points

6 days ago

Preferably if she knows leg sweeps. Who am I kidding? Every Mexican mom knows leg sweeps unless she’s got a wicked left hook and every Mexican mom has a wicked left hook.

turd_vinegar

89 points

6 days ago

Child- "I'll call CPS!"

Mexican mother- "They better bring a shovel."

-nocturnist-

26 points

6 days ago

I pulled that line on my parents as a kid. Dads answer: " Do it. I'll go to jail for a bit for slapping your ass, you'll go to foster care or worse, where you'll have to fight for everything you get. No more birthdays or Christmases". He was right - 9 year old me backed down right away when it dawned on me.

sharkwithamustache

24 points

6 days ago

My mom offered to dial FOR me but then said “you’re here with me till they get here.” I stopped acting out real quick.

Inverted_Antagonist

52 points

6 days ago

As long as she has a chankla in her arsenal

tortilla_factory

5 points

6 days ago

A chankla, a belt or my moms favorite the gancho/coat hanger

somaticconviction

24 points

6 days ago

I never understood how my friends weren’t terrified of their moms. But not everyone has a tiny terrifying Mexican mom I guess

DollylloD

13 points

6 days ago

DollylloD

13 points

6 days ago

I had a white farmer dad who threatened to bury me where no one would ever find me. That was haunting 🤷🏻‍♀️

eshinn

11 points

6 days ago

eshinn

11 points

6 days ago

Armed with a chancleta, Mexican Mom is every bit as fierce as OddJob with a hat.

killacam925

6 points

6 days ago

This fucking slayed me 😂

Informal_Drawing

7 points

6 days ago

Indian mum - with the Slipper of Doom !!!

Hearts_and_Spades

17 points

6 days ago

My ass would still be red today if I acted like this towards my mom

mcfigdaddy

46 points

6 days ago

Always interesting the dichotomy of people who say all spanking is evil and cruel, but when they see a clip like this, they openly advocate and ardently voice support for it. Fast forward a few years and see what this kid becomes. Odds are not in his favor. And what possibly awaits him with adult consequences can be a thousand times as devastating/punitive.

ScotchSinclair

53 points

6 days ago

There’s a difference between using violence to punish non violent actions (like cussing, grades, not listening, or screaming) and teaching your kid the reality that starting violence themselves open the door for returned violence. This is true in the world and its laws (self defense).

No_Poem_2169

23 points

6 days ago

100% this is a key subtly I wish was discussed more

Fun_Interview_4374

32 points

6 days ago

Let me at him idgaf. In fact I'll pay you

Own-Difficulty-6949

29 points

6 days ago

I would think this video is for some future interaction that's going to happen. Like proof the kid is out of control.

slimkt

4 points

6 days ago

slimkt

4 points

6 days ago

It almost certainly is if she’s intending to follow through with her threat of calling the cops. He screams how she’s hurting him while she’s on the floor just trying to restrain him, so it’s possible he could try and justify his actions to law enforcement by saying his mom was hurting him. Best to have evidence that he just flies off the handle like that.

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173 points

6 days ago

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173 points

6 days ago

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Mysterychic88

36 points

6 days ago

Legit same thought here!! He is full of serious rage and that evil little laugh when he had hold of his mums hair was diabolical

themodoftwaaisracist

114 points

6 days ago

I usually am against beating a kids ass. Usually.

Ventures00

189 points

6 days ago

Ventures00

189 points

6 days ago

Older brother should beat his ass and teach him not to hit his Mom, then beat his ass again if he tries to snitch on him.

Adam_is_Nutz

42 points

6 days ago

This is the wierdest part to me. Makes me think the older brother was told to react the way he did because the kid has an emotional disorder. At first I thought maybe the older brother didn't know what to do or didn't wanna get yelled at by the mom. But then I saw him take a fist right to the face and remain calm and only try to slow his little brother down. No way a teenage boy is taking a hit to the face from a spoiled brat and not losing his cool. Especially when he knows he can beat little bros ass. Gotta be more going on here.

SirMerkzA1ot

21 points

6 days ago

This.

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264 points

6 days ago

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264 points

6 days ago

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Davidlarios231

16 points

6 days ago

yeah one video represents an entire generation

Ok_Emu4622

47 points

6 days ago

Social services would be called when he tells on his parents to the teacher

text_here0101

74 points

6 days ago

Open palm is deemed acceptable by social services and the government this kid would at most inconvenience his parent(s)

Source: worked with kids long enough to know what I report as a mandated reporter will get through to CPS or social services

Ok_Emu4622

86 points

6 days ago

Then open palm that little asshole

SimonFol74

41 points

6 days ago

That's what she said!

Zealousideal-Neck289

16 points

6 days ago

Niicce

PrinceJamRoll

12 points

6 days ago

He'll learn how much worse he will have it in foster care

Ok_Emu4622

14 points

6 days ago

And grow up with more mental trauma from it than spanking would

PrinceJamRoll

28 points

6 days ago

Yeah rearing a child improperly thus making them totally unequipped for the real world is a fate far worse than the temporary sting of a slap

mchuff1980

4 points

6 days ago

Hopefully someone can get through to this kid before he gets any older and his violent outbursts get worse. Frightening future for this kid if he can’t figure out how to handle his emotions.

Pretend-Drop-8039

74 points

6 days ago

Rhe kid clearly is on the spectrum.Mom's doing a good job trying to tame him . This video is old , I bet the kid is almost 20 now , I hope hes doing better.

Due_Cardiologist406[S]

27 points

6 days ago

I believe he's about 16 currently.

Mustardsandwichtime

14 points

6 days ago

Do you know how he’s doing?

We had a crazy kid in my 1st grade and the teachers would regularly have to restrain him. Always wonder what happens to people like that.

freezetheice

17 points

6 days ago

Exactly my thought. Devastating for him that this video is shared online. And then there’s actual adults in the comments here saying all kinds of horrible things about him, a CHILD who is clearly having a serious episode he can’t fully control.

RadioRelapse

103 points

6 days ago

I have two sons. I told them explicitly if you ever hurt my wife (their mother), I will fuck your shit right up.

notapaperhandape

42 points

6 days ago

Just curious to know, what lead you to have that conversation?

RadioRelapse

67 points

6 days ago

My 8 year old thought he was hard enough to push a dinner plate into my wife's chest.

strongerlynn

29 points

6 days ago

Oh damn!!!! I seen my brother[16 at the time] get put threw a wall. For calling my mom a bitch. Then he got grounded evey other day for a month. I got woke up at 3 in the morning for not doing the dishes and made to do them when I was 7. Still had to get up and go to school. My parents didn't play.

Kedosto

20 points

6 days ago

Kedosto

20 points

6 days ago

This problem started a long time ago.

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56 points

6 days ago

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56 points

6 days ago

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IndependentBerry7883

21 points

6 days ago

Is there anyone here of the “kids have emotions and need to work through them” group here? I would like your input on how to deal with this!

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23 points

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SashaFatPanda

29 points

6 days ago

She very well could be filming to document. They may need proof of his actions for doctors or courts. She's probably at her wits end. This kid may have some mental disorders as to why he's behaving this way. She was probably taught to hold him so he doesn't hurt himself or others until the episode has passed. He's getting to big for her though and this isn't going to work long.

Long_Selection9296

41 points

6 days ago

Ahhh stress free upbringing. Three shots with a leather strap on a bare ass. It would even clean a clean room.

No_Lychee_7534

45 points

6 days ago

You guys calling for a ass beating, might be the easiest thing to say but it’s possible he may have some developmental issues. They are using a ton of restraints on the kid as if they know something we don’t.

Having a kid who is diagnosed in the autism spectrum, it was really difficult at times not to loose it when he have a melt down but we did the same thing to keep him from hurting himself. He was never this violent to others but can possibly hurt himself wriggling on the floor. It fucking breaks your heart just watching and trying to distract and divert attention instead of beating his ass, which would do so much more damage than good.

Lazy_Librarian_402

14 points

6 days ago

Yeah, I have a child that used to have tantrums like this. It would get pretty scary and it typically ended with my wife having to lock herself in her room and only ending when my kid collapsed from exhaustion. I am sort of surprised the police were never called on us because it got pretty bad. These tantrums would sometimes happen for no apparent reason or when she was dealing with something that was minimally frustrating.
I never once thought that an "ass beating" would some how stop them, although I did have to physically move her away from her mom a few times. She was eventually diagnosed with Hyposensitivity and Anxiety and we were able to get her into counseling and occupational therapy and she is, and always has been, a really great kid. I don't think spanking or physically beating her would have stopped it. .

emitwohs

13 points

6 days ago

emitwohs

13 points

6 days ago

Yea, he's definitely on the spectrum. An ass beating won't solve that. Professional help is what he needs.

StrangerPresent554

7 points

6 days ago

Agreed, my son is non verbal and luckily only ever open hand slaps, but this video reminded me of his melt downs over the years, just not as severe. My thought here is this family needs some respite and support. We've had some success with grounding techniques.

kellyliming

10 points

6 days ago

I work with kids like this who have moderate/severe special needs. This kid clearly has ODD (oppositional defiant disorder) or ED (emotional disturbance) or both. Probably ADHD too. His family needs to learn how to safely restrain him so that he’s not a harm to himself or others. I have to do this almost every day with some of my students and it’s not pleasant but sometimes you have to choice. It’s only going to get worse as he gets bigger and stronger. My heart goes out to his mom.

garbageman69420

17 points

6 days ago

Fat frothing redditors chomping at the bit to beat the shit out of a likely mentally unwell child is certainly not the flavor of the day I was expecting

bloodstarvedbeast04

5 points

6 days ago

Whats the police gonna do? Shoot the kid?

rdawes26

5 points

6 days ago

rdawes26

5 points

6 days ago

There has to be more to the story here. I'm pretty sure that kid has some sort of mental or social skill issue. The way that the grown-ups handled him in the manner that they did makes me think that this isn't the first time it's happened. How both of them restrained him the same way looks like they have done that more than once.

If not, then there needs to be hardcore counseling and discipline!

An8thOfFeanor

15 points

6 days ago

Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a bitch

chimpdoctor

5 points

6 days ago

The kid clearly has psychological issues. Its very sad. His family clearly haven't a clue how to help him. Why don't they just leave him have his freak out and he'll calm down. I feel bad for everyone in this video. Jacob clearly needs some help.

itskyle69

3 points

6 days ago

My younger brother was like that but 10x worse from like 10-13, he got better tho recently

re_de_unsassify

3 points

6 days ago

Posting this and putting music not right. The child needs help not exposure

rashman6969

17 points

6 days ago

Straight to the adoption agency