yep every job should. then it is the same as 40k when everything moves up to 225k

Jesus what state you live in to require 8 years?

If not then how on earth does it take 8 years for a teaching position?

Edit: to make 40k a year. If pay range is above 70k that's understandable

If it took you 8 years to get a degree for teaching, you took almost twice as long as the average person..

are you telling me that these 22yr old dumb ass teachers have an 8 year degree?

Then don’t become a teacher

Generally a four year degree, plus a teaching credential which is one or two years depending on the school.

That's all that's required but some ppl get a master's (not required tho) which would be anothsr year or two.

So, just FYI, only about 20% of professors are tenure track, and make less than 100k on average, not 300k.

I haven’t been able to find recent sources, but in the last 5-10 years there have been surveys that show that 40-75% of college classes are taught by non tenure track adjunct professors, many of whom make 30k a year, and most don’t make over 70k. Often, adjuncts get paid less than k-12 teachers in their area.

Wow, I need to go work at those schools.

Average professor pay here is about $113k/yr.

Average operating staff (which I was) is about $45k/yr

Hockey coach gets $300k/yr plus another $150k/yr in bonuses...

Just want to point out most teachers work during the "3 months off" at a second job because the annual salary isn't enough. And at many schools, teachers have to start lesson planning/trainings/orientations/meetings a month prior to school starts. AND during the year, they don't get off at 3pm along with the kids. The schools I've worked at, its normal to get there at 7:30am to prep for early drop off, then stay til at least 6pm. And if your class is the type that has essays/homework, you bring that home to read and grade.

Not sure if a gas station employee has any equivalent to that.

Of course teachers deserve more. But why should a Karen-appeaser get paid less?

One generates income which results in boosted wages. That’s how this works. Nothing is stopping a teacher from working here lol

First of all, school hours vary widely depending on where you live. Second, you don't work 7-3, school is from 7-3. You work from 6-4 or 7-5 if you're lucky. Most of the children's days off aren't days off for the teacher, aside from certain holidays. You need to be teaching during school hours, so time spent outside of those 7-3 hours needs to be spent on lesson plans and administrative meetings and all sorts of crap.

Many people believe teachers get summers off, but teachers need to use their summer breaks to revamp curriculum, update classroom activities, or attend classes for their certification. There are also lots of meetings and administrative bullshit.

Classrooms are underfunded and therefore under supplied so many (and in some places all) of the instructional materials are paid for and provided by the teacher... out of their own pay.

During their teaching hours teachers have to conform to the various state/board/administration approved curriculum. But if students don't learn the material well, they fail, and therefore so does the teacher. And most students don't learn well being taught by the old, outdated, standardized techniques the board wants you to use, so they have to reteach each lesson 5 different times in 10 different ways to meet most of the students learning needs. That's more time, outside of class, finding ways to get through to the students.

And then being harassed, bullied, threatened and physically attacked by the parents of whatever problem child in the class has decided they aren't going to learn, no matter what.

Oh and physically/verbally abused by the children as well.

Not only that, but they have to lead drills. All the drills. Fire drills, earthquake or tornado drills, active shooter drills, which is because... oh yeah, you run a chance of a school shooting every day. Or what doesn't make the news... the knife attacks or hammer attacks or whatever else attacks like students throwing an entire desk at a teacher's head.

Low pay, low/no benefits, no job security whatsoever unless/until you get tenure, which doesn't actually happen as often or as easily as media would lead you to believe.

For all of that you get a lousy base wage calculated to cover 6 hour school days for 184 days out of the school year.

I'm not going to compare managing a gas station, because I haven't worked in one. And people who don't know what they are talking about shouldn't talk about it.

But I will say teaching is nowhere near as laid-back/easy/rake-in-the-money as your reply would seem to indicate. I'd assume you've never taught.

Honey no teacher works 7-3. In my experience it's more like 7-5 plus grading well into the night and on weekends. Many teachers are required to attend professional development during the summer and have to plan lessons. So, yes, while they may not appear to have as rigorous a workload, they definitely do not deserve the near-criminal wages they earn, especially considering the stuff they have to deal with (including violence concerning students, crappy superintendents and principals, and poor conditions).